Date: Sat, 01 Jun 2019 09:19:37 -0600 From: Ian Lepore <ian@freebsd.org> To: Andriy Gapon <avg@FreeBSD.org> Cc: svn-src-head@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, src-committers <src-committers@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: svn commit: r344648 - in head: . sys/kern sys/sys Message-ID: <fce41b8cc15c17082bf08ed2cc5a9f46a0213e4c.camel@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <d6ef090a-6e36-e353-7e6f-28b7a28d46c0@FreeBSD.org> References: <CAK7dMtB9gDtJ6tSF=z%2B3tCUB6arhH9_mMk0X4546gdP0RytaXg@mail.gmail.com> <201905312217.x4VMH3YH031668@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> <CAK7dMtCksKQY3Yjz_uGbcT0gxj8Xz3=RDGyT9iGYN_Wpqc78bA@mail.gmail.com> <CANCZdfqFpgH35PcmAN_qMgbY9wRZ=MH=ntgGBgtZWcKJrrRh2w@mail.gmail.com> <d6ef090a-6e36-e353-7e6f-28b7a28d46c0@FreeBSD.org>
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On Sat, 2019-06-01 at 11:02 +0300, Andriy Gapon wrote: > On 01/06/2019 03:46, Warner Losh wrote: > > When we move to git, stuff like this just won't matter. So it's > > hard to get > > worked up about it now... and even if we weren't heading that way, > > the history > > preserved is so small as to say more than "meh" here. There is too > > little ROI to > > get worked up about. > > Still, even a token reply would have been nice. Much better than > starting to > ignore *everything* that a fellow developer writes. > "Yeah, looks like I screwed up. But fixing it is more work than it's > worth. > Sorry about that. Thanks." > The point is, a few people in the project have proven themselves to be noise generators with annoying whinging and nagging about tiny insigificant issues. That earns them a mail rule that simply discards all incoming mail from them. So, unsurprisingly: no reply. There are 3 project memembers I've written such rules for, although two of those rules are currently disabled (but I didn't delete them because I have a feeling I'm going to use them again some day). -- Ian > > On Fri, May 31, 2019, 4:56 PM Kevin Bowling < > > kevin.bowling@kev009.com > > <mailto:kevin.bowling@kev009.com>> wrote: > > > > The vast majority of contributors don't enjoy nit-picking on > > these > > trivialities. If the broader developer community is not > > rallying for > > the revert and some core conspiracy doesn't care about it > > either, that > > forms the de facto opinion of the FreeBSD community of today > > that this > > is trivial and irrelevant. > > > > Yes, there is vocal absolutism on the fringes about SHALLS and > > MUSTS > > about all sorts of things aside from modernizing FreeBSD and > > making it > > viable on current generation hardware. These parties might be > > happier > > and better aligned with OpenBSD ideologically as well as > > personalities. > > > > Regards, > > Kevin > > > > On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 3:17 PM Rodney W. Grimes > > <freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net <mailto:freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net>> > > wrote: > > > > > > > I know of several people that have blocked your mail. > > Maybe a moment > > > > for reflection on your attitude and approach if you want to > > be taken > > > > seriously. > > > > > > I would consider repository damange and abuse to be VERY > > serious. > > > I would also consider the treatmeant I am seeing of danfe > > boarder > > > line on contempt. > > > But then I also know there are probably some that have > > blocked me. > > > The project, sadly is spiraling around a toilet, and someone > > is about to > > flush.... > > > > > > It is not what you hear, it is what you are not hearing that > > makes me say > > these things... > > > And espcially what core seams to not be willing to hear, and > > is literly (I > > can proove this) > > > paying lip service to "solicited feedback". > > > > > > I asked about some of my solicited feedback, and a core > > member said he > > > could not find it in his inbox and that I needed to locate > > and provide > > > him a pointer to it. THAT my friends is not solicited > > feedback, that is > > > /dev/null of feedback and just plain out right unexcusable. > > > > > > And note above all else the "product" of the FreeBSD project > > is NOT > > > releases, it IS the repository, and if we get sloppy with > > that product > > > it makes life harder for our consumers. If you have ever > > tried to > > > find the history of a deleted object (which is what the > > process being > > > complained about here creaetes) it is a royal PITA. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Rod > > > > > > > On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 8:50 AM Alexey Dokuchaev < > > danfe@freebsd.org > > <mailto:danfe@freebsd.org>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 03:20:50PM +0000, Brooks Davis > > wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 09:11:36AM +0000, Alexey > > Dokuchaev wrote: > > > > > > > On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 03:11:40PM +0000, Alexey > > Dokuchaev wrote: > > > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 07:47:51AM +0000, Alexey > > Dokuchaev wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 10:56:55PM +0000, Mateusz > > Guzik wrote: > > > > > > > > > > New Revision: 344648 > > > > > > > > > > URL: > > https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/344648 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Log: > > > > > > > > > > Rename seq to seqc to avoid namespace clashes > > with Linux > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > Added: > > > > > > > > > > head/sys/sys/seqc.h (contents, props > > changed) > > > > > > > > > > Deleted: > > > > > > > > > > head/sys/sys/seq.h > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why it was deleted and added as new file instead > > of being > > repocopied? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Retransmit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ping! > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you have nothing better to do? > > > > > > > > > > Oh, I have a lot on my plate, thanks for asking. Now, > > back to the > > subject: > > > > > > > > > > - I think that this commit was executed badly (not via > > repocopy) > > > > > - I've been trying to contact mjg@ for several weeks, to > > no avail :( > > > > > - All I get in return is an email from a fellow committer > > asking me > > > > > if I have anything better to do > > > > > > > > > > Sorry, I don't understand this. I don't understand why > > we ignore email > > > > > from our own community. I don't understand why we do not > > correct or at > > > > > least explain why what looks like a mistake is actually > > not(?). I don't > > > > > understand why I'm being ridiculed, not those who make > > dubious commits > > > > > and fail to defend them. > > > > > > > > > > ./danfe > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > svn-src-head@freebsd.org <mailto:svn-src-head@freebsd.org > > > mailing list > > > > > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/svn-src-head > > > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > > svn-src-head-unsubscribe@freebsd.org > > <mailto:svn-src-head-unsubscribe@freebsd.org>" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Rod Grimes > > rgrimes@freebsd.org <mailto:rgrimes@freebsd.org> > > > >
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