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Date:      Mon, 18 May 2026 14:02:28 +0200
From:      =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= <des@FreeBSD.org>
To:        John Gaskill <westcoastadguy@yahoo.com>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Pre-install Setup Questions
Message-ID:  <86bjedapt7.fsf@ltc.des.dev>
In-Reply-To: <2086036150.1826563.1779037719691@mail.yahoo.com> (John Gaskill's message of "Sun, 17 May 2026 17:08:39 %2B0000 (UTC)")
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John Gaskill <westcoastadguy@yahoo.com> writes:
> My expectation after reading the Handbook in advance of the
> installation attempt was that this img file would have all the files
> on it necessary to install FreeBSD

Yes.

> and the Ports collection

They wouldn't fit.  You need about 4-5 GB of packages for a full desktop
environment with a browser and an office suite, and that's just a tiny
subset of the entire collection.  But the entire base system, including
debugging symbols and tests, is less than 1 GB.

> so I could have a successful, secure installation.

You can have that using the memstick image.

> The installation menu popup indicated that a number of optional
> security and debugging packages were only available via the Internet

uh, no

> and provided a series of screens requesting network i.p. numbers.

It offers to try DHCP first, so you must either have declined that or
there is something wrong with your network.

> Since debugging and security are inherent to a good installation, not
> being able to install them directly did not seem safe to me. Perhaps
> it's just excessive paranoia on my part when it comes to the Internet,
> AI and the ability of criminal types of all kinds to worm their way
> into your computer if given the opportunity.

You certainly have a vivid imagination.

DES
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Dag-Erling Smørgrav - des@FreeBSD.org


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