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Date:      Tue, 7 Jun 2016 15:00:11 +0100
From:      krad <kraduk@gmail.com>
To:        Slawa Olhovchenkov <slw@zxy.spb.ru>
Cc:        Ian Lepore <ian@freebsd.org>, "stable@freebsd.org" <stable@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: unbound and ntp issuse
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it's a non solvable problem though as its a deadlock. You have to remove
one of the criteria in order to fix the issue automatically.

On 7 June 2016 at 14:32, Slawa Olhovchenkov <slw@zxy.spb.ru> wrote:

> On Tue, Jun 07, 2016 at 07:29:32AM -0600, Ian Lepore wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 2016-06-07 at 12:10 +0100, krad wrote:
> > > whops that should be
> > >
> > > ntpdate_hosts not servers
> > >
> >
> > These suggestions are essentially insane because they're ignoring the
> > basic fact that the freebsd installer creates a non-working system.  If
> > unbound requires DNSSEC, and DNSSEC requires good time, and good time
> > requires hostname resolution, then that circular dependency is a
> > problem that the freebsd project needs to fix, not something to be
> > hacked around by each individual sysadmin.
>
> Exactly! This is may point!
>
> > It is a bit disturbing to me that the project members who created this
> > situation have been silent in the face of *months* of reporting of it
> > by several different users.
>



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