Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2026 19:38:51 +0200 From: vermaden <vermaden@interia.pl> To: Rozhuk Ivan <rozhuk.im@gmail.com> Cc: "freebsd-current@freebsd.org" <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>, "freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org" <freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org>, "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org" <freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: Tragic State of FreeBSD Audio/Sound Message-ID: <qwepsnprfvciwlmciezl@sxog> In-Reply-To: <20260720202746.45869b21@rimwks.local> References: <hkttyyfmuguexmliuhmg@ewtn> <sirudbjwrqwlhpzjpfqf@abqv> <20260720202746.45869b21@rimwks.local>
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> > I will not even start about PITA syntax of mixer(1) which went into
> > this:
> >
> > % mixer -f ${DEV} vol.volume=+0.05
>
> Just use gtk-mixer, avail in ports.
>
> In recent years, I haven't noticed any bugs
> in the operation of the OSS.
I do it by scripts anyway ... but I needed to rewrite all my scripts because of these changes ... and this change in syntax was bad from at least three perspectives:
1. It happened in 'point' release (like from .2 to .3) - not in new major release - breaking stuff for EVERYONE.
2. It happened without any reason - the tool could do the same with old syntax underneath - the new syntax does not introduce anything new - it just has different syntax.
3. As FreeBSD (at least up to some time ago) cherished the POLA principle WHY the old syntax could not been also kept and accepted?
... and yes - I also think that 'gtk-mixer' works well - so is 'dsbmixer' tool.
Regards,
vermaden
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