Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2012 15:20:19 +0100 From: Bas Smeelen <b.smeelen@ose.nl> To: H <hm@hm.net.br> Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: flowtable usable or not Message-ID: <4F5228A3.1080707@ose.nl> In-Reply-To: <4F51E1E5.3000202@hm.net.br> References: <20120221143537.Horde.deyFDZjmRSRPQ52pxBIpnLA@webmail.leidinger.net> <BA7FFA2D-DEE6-4FB7-AE26-0BC79CBFD8C0@lists.zabbadoz.net> <4F4BA707.5070608@wasikowski.net> <4F4C3FE7.3040802@FreeBSD.org> <CACqU3MWx3pMMDncvOita-OAgfe=NPKtwKE2WeB_mdcYwozY81Q@mail.gmail.com> <4F4D51CB.2010508@FreeBSD.org> <4F4D5E5D.9040302@FreeBSD.org> <4F4DD288.5060106@FreeBSD.org> <CAHM0Q_O%2BCt6yhRL=B9oxgkL8EgLxZdo7-KFO2C8HqiN1=Kx_bw@mail.gmail.com> <4F4ED889.2070608@FreeBSD.org> <4F500BB9.4040307@FreeBSD.org> <CAHM0Q_OfeB7Kb=pgjGq0uffLJdJROGoCaGz=25Jito-kweAxRQ@mail.gmail.com> <4F5088CA.1090108@FreeBSD.org> <CAHM0Q_MZM6Gn_zPzxz5tLuzPOW=kK9YxqmrLTyitvGfAPhrkbw@mail.gmail.com> <4F510FBD.50008@FreeBSD.org> <4F511496.50106@hm.net.br> <4F512BBB.9000403@ose.nl> <4F51E1E5.3000202@hm.net.br>
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On 03/03/2012 10:18 AM, H wrote: > Bas Smeelen wrote: >> On 03/02/2012 07:42 PM, H wrote: >>> Doug Barton wrote: >>>> ... and here is the crux of the problem. The vast majority of our >>>> developers don't use FreeBSD as their regular workstation. So it has >>>> increasingly become an OS where changes are being lobbed over the wall >>>> by developers who don't run systems that those changes affect. That's >>>> no way to run a railroad. Doug >>> wow >>> >>> since it is not April 1st it must be revelation's day ...:) >>> >>> is this then the bottomline ? >>> >>> if [ $using_ports=YES ]; get_screwed($big_time); fi >>> >>> >> Hey people >> >> There are still a lot of us which might not be smart enough or lack >> the resources to help you debug issues but we still use and depend on >> FreeBSD, and we test, and hopefully give you some debugging hints >> >> I have some production servers running on STABLE and even some on >> CURRENT to stress our developers, but most run RELEASE and use >> freebsd-update >> >> Keep up the good work, it makes me a more confident sysadmin >> Ports is the best thing happening to me after going through al the apt >> and other stuff > you talk like the wind blows my friend ... > > remembering your own most recent words in another occasion what > certainly do not match your last sentence ... The last sentences: In short: FreeBSD makes you think about what you are doing beforehand which makes a great way to upgrade/ update application, database e.g. on servers whithout running into service downtime. Other OS's don't or do it less. I like that a lot, it saves a lot of incoming phone calls. http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2012-January/237779.html > >> / On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 3:58 PM, Bas Smeelen<b.smeelen at ose.nl<http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions>>; wrote: > />/ > />/> On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 12:52:07 -0500 > />/> David Jackson<djackson452 at gmail.com<http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions>>; wrote: > />/> > />/> > I have tried endlessly to no avail to upgrade binary the packages > />/> > on Freebsd to the latest version. I have tried: > />/> > > /... >> /> > > />/> > All fail miserably and totally and have left the system in an > />/> > unuseable state. > />/> > /.... >> / > />/ > />/ I wish to use binary packages and I specifically do not want to > />/ compile anything, it tends to take far too long to compile programs > />/ and would rather install some packages and have it all work right > />/ away. Binary packages are a big time saver and are more efficient. It > />/ should be easy for FreeBSD to make it easy to install the most recent > />/ versions of all binary packages, its beyond belief they cannot pull > />/ off such a simple ans straight forward, and basic part of any OS. / > > > > > Disclaimer: http://www.ose.nl/email
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