Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 10:24:28 +0100 From: "Nora Schram" <nora.schram@planet.nl> To: "Roman Neuhauser" <neuhauser@mobil.cz> Cc: "Newbies FreeBSD" <freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Re: How to X? Message-ID: <004701c1bab9$9c91c700$0300a8c0@cb03> References: <002101c1b876$a08afec0$0300a8c0@cb03> <20020219155434.GZ418@roman.mobil.cz>
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Yes, thank you.... I was aware of the server-client contradiction in X =
but I got confused anyway.
To be specific: I develop database-oriented applications. The database =
resides on the server=20
(Novell, now changing to FreeBSD) in multi-user mode. On the =
workstations, my users expect=20
pretty screens. I have a large DOS application running and several =
Access databases in the=20
development stage.
So now I want to convert the DOS application to something that can =
interact with Windows=20
programs and I would like to get rid of Access altogether. I think =
Exceed offers the best=20
possibilities to do that. It would be lovely to convert all workstations =
to FreeBSD but oh,=20
the work involved scares me!
A completely different approach would be to use an Intranet, PHP and =
MySQL. But then we=20
would have to live with a browser interface, greatly inferior to what =
you can do with an good=20
development system.
And that is my main question: which development system? Any hints =
appreciated.
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Roman Neuhauser=20
To: Newbies FreeBSD=20
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: How to X?
> From: "Nora Schram" <nora.schram@planet.nl>
> To: "Newbies FreeBSD" <freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG>
> Subject: How to X?
> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 12:53:31 +0100
>=20
> After reading many docs, I think this is the situation if I want to
> use X:
=20
You've got the names the other way around. See below.
> 2. X on the server, plus files, databases
> A Windows PC with a client program (Hummingbird Exceed?) to run X
> in a window while having access to other Windows programs.
Exceed is not an X client program, it's an X server. Netscape
Navigator is an X client, xterm is an X client... If you want to
run Exceed, you don't need an X server (most probably Xfree86) on
the FreeBSD box. Just tell the applications on the FreeBSD box you
want them to connect to the Exceed box, and they will do so.
> 1. No X on the server, just files, databases
> X on another FreeBSD box, possibly dual-boot with a Windows =
version
> Do I have to put my X-applications on every client or can I put
> them on the server too?
>
> Is this correct? Are there other possibilities?
You don't mention the nature of the work you want to perform. Is =
it
editing text files? Is it working with a database client app? =
Those
have network capabilities, right?
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As for the text files: How about NFS?
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Yes, thank you.... I was aware of the =
server-client=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>To be specific: I develop =
database-oriented=20
applications. The database resides on the server </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>(Novell, now changing to FreeBSD) in =
multi-user=20
mode. On the workstations, my users expect </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>pretty screens. I have a large DOS =
application=20
running and several Access databases in the </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>development stage.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>So now I want to convert the DOS =
application to=20
something that can interact with Windows </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>programs and I would like to get rid of =
Access=20
altogether. I think Exceed offers the best </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>possibilities to do that. It would be =
lovely to=20
convert all workstations to FreeBSD but oh, </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the work involved scares =
me!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>A completely different approach would =
be to use an=20
Intranet, PHP and MySQL. But then we </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>would have to live with a browser =
interface,=20
greatly inferior to what you can do with an good </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>development system.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>And that is my main question: which =
development=20
system? Any hints appreciated.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<A title=3Dneuhauser@mobil.cz href=3D"mailto:neuhauser@mobil.cz">Roman =
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, February 19, =
2002 4:54=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: How to X?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>> From: "Nora Schram" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:nora.schram@planet.nl">nora.schram@planet.nl</A>><BR>&g=
t; To:=20
"Newbies FreeBSD" <<A=20
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Subject: How to X?<BR>> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 12:53:31 =
+0100<BR>>=20
<BR>> After reading many docs, I think this is the situation if I =
want=20
to<BR>> use X:<BR> <BR> You've got the names =
the=20
other way around. See below.<BR><BR>> 2. X on the server, plus =
files,=20
databases<BR>> A Windows PC with a client program =
(Hummingbird Exceed?) to run X<BR>> in a window =
while=20
having access to other Windows programs.<BR><BR> =
Exceed is=20
not an X client program, it's an X server. =
Netscape<BR> =20
Navigator is an X client, xterm is an X client... If you want=20
to<BR> run Exceed, you don't need an X server (most =
probably=20
Xfree86) on<BR> the FreeBSD box. Just tell the =
applications=20
on the FreeBSD box you<BR> want them to connect to =
the=20
Exceed box, and they will do so.<BR><BR>> 1. No X on the server, =
just=20
files, databases<BR>> X on another FreeBSD box, =
possibly=20
dual-boot with a Windows version<BR>> Do I have =
to put my=20
X-applications on every client or can I put<BR>> =
them on=20
the server too?<BR>><BR>> Is this correct? Are there other=20
possibilities?<BR><BR> You don't mention the nature =
of the=20
work you want to perform. Is it<BR> editing text =
files? Is=20
it working with a database client app? Those<BR> =
have=20
network capabilities, right?<BR> <BR> As =
for the=20
text files: How about NFS?<BR><BR>-- <BR>FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE<BR>4:40PM =
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