Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 10:24:28 +0100 From: "Nora Schram" <nora.schram@planet.nl> To: "Roman Neuhauser" <neuhauser@mobil.cz> Cc: "Newbies FreeBSD" <freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Re: How to X? Message-ID: <004701c1bab9$9c91c700$0300a8c0@cb03> References: <002101c1b876$a08afec0$0300a8c0@cb03> <20020219155434.GZ418@roman.mobil.cz>
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Yes, thank you.... I was aware of the server-client contradiction in X but I got confused anyway.
To be specific: I develop database-oriented applications. The database resides on the server
(Novell, now changing to FreeBSD) in multi-user mode. On the workstations, my users expect
pretty screens. I have a large DOS application running and several Access databases in the
development stage.
So now I want to convert the DOS application to something that can interact with Windows
programs and I would like to get rid of Access altogether. I think Exceed offers the best
possibilities to do that. It would be lovely to convert all workstations to FreeBSD but oh,
the work involved scares me!
A completely different approach would be to use an Intranet, PHP and MySQL. But then we
would have to live with a browser interface, greatly inferior to what you can do with an good
development system.
And that is my main question: which development system? Any hints appreciated.
----- Original Message -----
From: Roman Neuhauser
To: Newbies FreeBSD
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: How to X?
> From: "Nora Schram" <nora.schram@planet.nl>
> To: "Newbies FreeBSD" <freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG>
> Subject: How to X?
> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 12:53:31 +0100
>
> After reading many docs, I think this is the situation if I want to
> use X:
You've got the names the other way around. See below.
> 2. X on the server, plus files, databases
> A Windows PC with a client program (Hummingbird Exceed?) to run X
> in a window while having access to other Windows programs.
Exceed is not an X client program, it's an X server. Netscape
Navigator is an X client, xterm is an X client... If you want to
run Exceed, you don't need an X server (most probably Xfree86) on
the FreeBSD box. Just tell the applications on the FreeBSD box you
want them to connect to the Exceed box, and they will do so.
> 1. No X on the server, just files, databases
> X on another FreeBSD box, possibly dual-boot with a Windows version
> Do I have to put my X-applications on every client or can I put
> them on the server too?
>
> Is this correct? Are there other possibilities?
You don't mention the nature of the work you want to perform. Is it
editing text files? Is it working with a database client app? Those
have network capabilities, right?
As for the text files: How about NFS?
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Yes, thank you.... I was aware of the server-client
contradiction in X but I got confused anyway.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>To be specific: I develop database-oriented
applications. The database resides on the server </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>(Novell, now changing to FreeBSD) in multi-user
mode. On the workstations, my users expect </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>pretty screens. I have a large DOS application
running and several Access databases in the </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>development stage.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>So now I want to convert the DOS application to
something that can interact with Windows </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>programs and I would like to get rid of Access
altogether. I think Exceed offers the best </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>possibilities to do that. It would be lovely to
convert all workstations to FreeBSD but oh, </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>the work involved scares me!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>A completely different approach would be to use an
Intranet, PHP and MySQL. But then we </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>would have to live with a browser interface,
greatly inferior to what you can do with an good </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>development system.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>And that is my main question: which development
system? Any hints appreciated.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=neuhauser@mobil.cz href="mailto:neuhauser@mobil.cz">Roman
Neuhauser</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org
href="mailto:freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org">Newbies FreeBSD</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, February 19, 2002 4:54
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: How to X?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>> From: "Nora Schram" <<A
href="mailto:nora.schram@planet.nl">nora.schram@planet.nl</A>><BR>> To:
"Newbies FreeBSD" <<A
href="mailto:freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG">freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG</A>><BR>>
Subject: How to X?<BR>> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 12:53:31 +0100<BR>>
<BR>> After reading many docs, I think this is the situation if I want
to<BR>> use X:<BR> <BR> You've got the names the
other way around. See below.<BR><BR>> 2. X on the server, plus files,
databases<BR>> A Windows PC with a client program
(Hummingbird Exceed?) to run X<BR>> in a window while
having access to other Windows programs.<BR><BR> Exceed is
not an X client program, it's an X server. Netscape<BR>
Navigator is an X client, xterm is an X client... If you want
to<BR> run Exceed, you don't need an X server (most probably
Xfree86) on<BR> the FreeBSD box. Just tell the applications
on the FreeBSD box you<BR> want them to connect to the
Exceed box, and they will do so.<BR><BR>> 1. No X on the server, just
files, databases<BR>> X on another FreeBSD box, possibly
dual-boot with a Windows version<BR>> Do I have to put my
X-applications on every client or can I put<BR>> them on
the server too?<BR>><BR>> Is this correct? Are there other
possibilities?<BR><BR> You don't mention the nature of the
work you want to perform. Is it<BR> editing text files? Is
it working with a database client app? Those<BR> have
network capabilities, right?<BR> <BR> As for the
text files: How about NFS?<BR><BR>-- <BR>FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE<BR>4:40PM up 3
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