Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2004 09:00:17 -0700 (MST) From: "M. Warner Losh" <imp@bsdimp.com> To: freebsd@nbritton.org Cc: sue@freebsd.org Subject: Re: It's time to shut down this list. Message-ID: <20041228.090017.106033285.imp@bsdimp.com> In-Reply-To: <41D18150.3030104@nbritton.org> References: <41D16A0F.4000909@nbritton.org> <20041228.083428.05622618.imp@bsdimp.com> <41D18150.3030104@nbritton.org>
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Nikolas Britton <freebsd@nbritton.org> writes:
: M. Warner Losh wrote:
:
: >In message: <41D16A0F.4000909@nbritton.org>
: > Nikolas Britton <freebsd@nbritton.org> writes:
: >: Unless your a member of core or have been at one time your voice is
: >: unheard...
: >
: >Clearly you have no idea about how core works. I've read every single
: >message in this thread, but have thought it better to let it run its
: >coarse to see what the consensus of the community was. That's clearly
: >listening to the voices of all those concerned.
: >
: >Warner
: >
: >
: >
: I was generalizing. but now that I got your ear what is the core team
: doing about PR and Martketing, and why is the "Public Relations &
: Corporate Liaison" seat open? see the "FreeBSD's Visual Identity:
: Outdated?" and freebsd foundation threads on -questions for more info.
We are well aware of the issues here, and have talked about them in
some depth. We'd planned on launching our efforts to fix the
problems, if any truly exist, after the first of the year when people
are back from their holidays. Also, there's never been a PR seat, so
to complain that it is open is like complaining that the village idiot
seat is open... That critism is unwarranted. In the past, PR has
been done by the cdrom companies, but their monitary incentives for
doing that is now way down since cdrom sales have dropped so much over
the years. The FreeBSD Foundation is an independent entity, over
which core has no control.
Warner
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