Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 13:49:24 -0700 From: Nate Williams <nate@mt.sri.com> To: Paulo Cesar Pereira de Andrade <paulo@fiscodata-pr.netpar.com.br> Cc: Damon Permezel <dap@damon.com>, Stephen Wynne <stevemw@northwest.com>, java@FreeBSD.ORG, java-port@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Crashes with Swing 1.0.1 and Lesstif 0.82/port Message-ID: <199803042049.NAA11466@mt.sri.com> In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.3.96.980304152821.29183A-100000@fiscodata-pr.netpar.com.br> References: <199803040326.VAA02968@damon.com> <Pine.BSF.3.96.980304152821.29183A-100000@fiscodata-pr.netpar.com.br>
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> > > I no longer care about lesstif, so if you find that motif > > > doesn't want this change, lets undo it. > > > > Perhaps you understand why I eventually decided that the $$ invested in > > a copy of Motif would be well spent. > > I'm yet to learn java, but have some coments here. Please, don't depend > on commercial products. Java is a commercial product if you *really* want to split hairs. > I don't have anything against Xig (they are very friendly and > helpfull to customers), but need to say, their FreeBSD products > are too old. Too old? > I've buyed their Motif and XServer hopping to learn Motif and see a > 'Real X Server'. At least on my S3 board, XFree is faster, and > *even* uses HW cursor. At leats on my S3 board, their 3.1 server *kills* it in terms of performance, and is less buggy. I can also do 24bit color at 1600x1200 with a 4MB board which I can't with XFree. > Their libraries are broken, mostly because of the utmp/wtmp > changes, and on my 3.0 box, even editing the binary (yes, I did it, > because it has a lot of hardcoded resources, and is not friendly > to -xrm args). XIG doesn't support 3.0. Heck, does XFree86 support 3.0? I wouldn't expect any commercial vendor to support a moving target like -current. I don't run it on any of my boxes that are for 'general' use, and I'm a developer. :) > I never could get Xsetup -graphics to work, only Xsetup -text. It > prints some messages that cannot load some font's and core-dumps. Did you contact their tech. support about this? Did you download the patch for Xsetup from their WWW/ftp site? > Also, in one of the latest CERT's I've read, it appears that Accel X > uses a bug in *BSD to get write permission's in /dev/mem. When it is > fixed, current versions of AccellX will not work anymore. Except that they will (hopefully) provide a patch for this. There just like any vendor (including FreeBSD). When bugs are found fixes take time to get integrated/tested and put into the tree. FreeBSD hasn't even fixed it yet. > I hope all the problems I had are because I don't want go back to > 2.2.1, but will not use neither Motif neither AccellX. Fine, but don't expect people to spend alot of time fixing something that is so broken (LessTif) when a working solution (Motif) exists. I have no interest in re-inventing something that works. Java is the technology I seek, not the process of getting Java freed. Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message
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