Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 23:53:38 -0500 From: Garance A Drosihn <drosih@rpi.edu> To: "M. Warner Losh" <imp@bsdimp.com>, scottl@FreeBSD.org Cc: cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/boot/i386/loader Makefile loader.rc Message-ID: <p06200705bdd057157961@[128.113.24.47]> In-Reply-To: <20041128.200206.114580739.imp@bsdimp.com> References: <41AA86D1.7070105@freebsd.org> <20041128.194040.04241039.imp@bsdimp.com> <41AA904F.708@freebsd.org> <20041128.200206.114580739.imp@bsdimp.com>
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At 8:02 PM -0700 11/28/04, M. Warner Losh wrote: >In message: <41AA904F.708@freebsd.org> > Scott Long <scottl@freebsd.org> writes: >: M. Warner Losh wrote: >: > In message: <41AA86D1.7070105@freebsd.org> >: > Scott Long <scottl@FreeBSD.org> writes: >: > : For those who think that ease-of-use is important, please >: > : accept my apologies. >: > >: > One could easily have a 'safeboot' command, which would disable >: > all the things that the safe boot menu item used to do. >: > >: > Warner >: >: safeboot isn't the same as 'disable acpi'. It was actually quite >: useful to disable ACPI but still leave ATA-DMA and SMP enabled. > >Agreed. A few wrappers would go a long way is all I'm saying.. A few wrappers would, in my opinion, be irrelevant. By the time someone tracks down what wrapper to type in, they might as well track down what full-blown commands to type in. The menu was an advantage when a user just installed some new kernel, and now their machine is having problems. That is not a good time to go reading web or man pages to try to figure out what magic words *might* be worth typing in. I admit that I would prefer a smaller (quicker-to-display) menu, but completely removing the menu seems (to me) to be a step backwards. However, I do notice that few people have objected to the menu being removed, so I guess I'll just leave the topic alone. But I will note that most users probably won't realize this change has even happened until their next clean-install of some future release... -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@gilead.netel.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@freebsd.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute or drosih@rpi.edu
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