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Date:      Tue, 6 Oct 1998 22:30:39 -0400 (EDT)
From:      Chuck Robey <chuckr@mat.net>
To:        "Jeffrey J. Mountin" <jeff-ml@mountin.net>
Cc:        Wes Peters <wes@softweyr.com>, Sean Kelly <kelly@plutotech.com>, Nate Williams <nate@mt.sri.com>, FreeBSD-security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Java-based Crypto Decoder Ring gets NIST FIPS 140-1  certification (fwd)
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.05.9810062228320.15656-100000@picnic.mat.net>
In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19981006210902.006e987c@207.227.119.2>

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On Tue, 6 Oct 1998, Jeffrey J. Mountin wrote:

> >%   can't be easily forged by an outsider who gets physical access to you
> >%   and your computer.
> 
> Before addressing far-out scenarios, let's assume it's a ring.  As long as it doesn't not fall off....
> 
> If it does, the finder would need to know where to use it.  Say one is laying on the street.  Despite the odds of finding a "good" receptical, lose the ring and you change the codes.
> 
> 
> >This would pretty much need to be a biometric device of some sort that
> >can measure stress *and* determine if the subject is living or dead.
> >Probably still slightly beyond the state of the art, but not more than
> >a few years out now.
> >
> >I personally prefer the urinalysis login method, but it can get pretty
> >messy, and I'm told is much more embarassing for users with two Y
> >chromosones.
> 
> Retina scan maybe.  Simple, less messy and what happens if it is 50 below and you just can't go.  Not sure the ladies would like the p-test either.
> 
> Also what happens if someone steals a sample.  For the truely paranoid. 8-)

You guys are missing the central fact:  No, it's not perfect.  Yes, it's
far better than what we have today.

On the other hand, maybe you guys are joking, and I'm being too serious?
The thing _really is_ a ring, you can see it on their web site, and it'
seems really cheap.  I'm going to get more info ...

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