Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2015 14:14:39 +0100 From: John Marino <freebsd.contact@marino.st> To: Andrey Chernov <ache@freebsd.org>, marino@freebsd.org, Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@freebsd.org> Cc: NGie Cooper <yaneurabeya@gmail.com>, Craig Rodrigues <rodrigc@FreeBSD.org>, freebsd-current Current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>, "freebsd-testing@freebsd.org" <testing@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Need help fixing failing locale tests Message-ID: <5648853F.2050901@marino.st> In-Reply-To: <5648842E.3050203@freebsd.org> References: <CAG=rPVc1t2q_MR99iyWYfy4xrCy==KA1yT=EAaa2twiHoC=zcA@mail.gmail.com> <CAG=rPVfK6ZyWJhtuBihmj%2BWNp94auCJ3kDqoQm-ygXNpiLeatA@mail.gmail.com> <69242BD8-9010-47F0-9706-BE206376ECEA@gmail.com> <289892B6-EACE-4BDA-B838-D3DC750319DE@gmail.com> <56482FA9.2010803@marino.st> <56487973.5070803@freebsd.org> <20151115124656.GB93991@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <564880FA.5000009@freebsd.org> <564882A3.7060109@marino.st> <5648842E.3050203@freebsd.org>
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On 11/15/2015 2:10 PM, Andrey Chernov wrote: >> Well, there is "harm". The -1/-15 confusion happens a lot. > > It is user confusion and his responsibility. It not leads to wrong > program build f.e. Moreover, you can't protect users who set 8859-1 that > way, they do not convert to 8859-15 as you assume but start to complain > everywhere that FreeBSD is not working instead. Invalid. "locale -a" shows what locales are available. The confusion is not with one user. It's with one user that produces document in one encoding and a second user that choses the wrong one (usually -1). -15 was designed to replace -1. OpenBSD removed ISO8859* completely. > >> Is the plan to keep every locale ever created for ever and ever? Never >> do any kind of kind of cleanup or reorg? > > It will be nice to do it that way. FreeBSD have a little part of world > locales, which indirectly assumes that they are really used. Also invalid. Locales are not standardized with regard to encoding, so maintaining a museum of locales is specific to FreeBSD. Linux calls them differently. John
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