Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2002 11:29:30 +0100 From: Mark Murray <mark@grondar.za> To: Paul Richards <paul@freebsd-services.com> Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Removing perl in make world Message-ID: <200207051029.g65ATUii003713@grimreaper.grondar.org> In-Reply-To: <1025862341.1573.40.camel@lobster.originative.co.uk> ; from Paul Richards <paul@freebsd-services.com> "05 Jul 2002 10:45:41 BST." References: <1025862341.1573.40.camel@lobster.originative.co.uk>
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> I think we should add a target to make world that checks for the
> existence of an old base install of Perl and removes it if it exists.
I agree that we may need a tool to do this, but I don't agree that it
gets done automatically by "make world".
> As a general principle, if we do things like remove code during -current
> development then make world needs to cater for that change. The idea of
> make world is that what you get at the end of it is a pristine install
> of a snapshot of FreeBSD from the current branch.
I disagree. This is force-feeding the user base too much.
> The bootstrap target was originally added for this purpose, to deal with
> issues during releases i.e. to bootstrap from one version of current to
> another. It's got misunderstood along the way to mean bootstrapping
> tools needed early in the build process.
>
> I'd like to resurrect it's original meaning and add code to clean out
> old versions of Perl.
Lots of things get deleted from current as time goes by; headers,
libraries, applets, etc. It is the responsibility of the CURRENT
builder/user to remove them as she sees fit. Our resposibility as
developers goes no further than to help provide removal tools/techniques
(I use "find ${DIR} -type f -ctime +1 -delete -print"), and guidance.
Of course, there are counterprecedents (libtelnet is one), but these
are the exception, and are unlikely to trample all over a user's
carefully crafted installation.
M
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o Mark Murray
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