Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2018 11:43:28 -0500 From: Dennis Clarke <dclarke@blastwave.org> To: Paul Mather <paul@gromit.dlib.vt.edu> Cc: FreeBSD PowerPC ML <freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: revision 341006 quite unusable Message-ID: <22308c28-beea-5871-c29a-5467dad5cbae@blastwave.org> In-Reply-To: <55240EC6-D3EF-4C93-850C-BF6109C72B5E@gromit.dlib.vt.edu> References: <62bd5352-6eb5-ea4c-fd5b-fd4d1a35186b@blastwave.org> <7534F42F-5BFA-4C94-B387-A42F10B5B389@yahoo.com> <0a223db3-8c88-faa9-5cfe-983ada996d4e@blastwave.org> <F33F6393-8B42-46B7-96C6-66D9C39FFA2F@yahoo.com> <70945861-107c-b271-93fe-110127d90ba4@blastwave.org> <55240EC6-D3EF-4C93-850C-BF6109C72B5E@gromit.dlib.vt.edu>
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On 11/28/18 11:15 AM, Paul Mather wrote: > On Nov 28, 2018, at 10:33 AM, Dennis Clarke <dclarke@blastwave.org> wrote: >> On 11/27/18 7:09 PM, Mark Millard wrote: >>> On 2018-Nov-27, at 11:47, Dennis Clarke <dclarke@blastwave.org> wrote: >>>> On 11/27/18 2:28 PM, Mark Millard wrote: >>>>> On 2018-Nov-27, at 01:26, Dennis Clarke <dclarke at blastwave.org> wrote: Looking at BUILD(7) and RELEASE(7) there are piles of secret knowledge all over the place in various bits and the handbook is not all that useful. One needs to sit down and read for hours and hours and then reference here there and everywhere and run days of experiments to watch things "not work" over and over and over until maybe someday arrive at a process and procedure that works. I think I have installed FreeBSD at least twenty times in the last two months and there are always little problems to sort out. Every time. The ppc64 bits are a fun experiment and I'd like to see that working given all the great stuff happening at IBM and with the new "Summit" supercomputer. Makes one think that Power9 has a life for a while yet and I don't have to run Debian on ye old IBM970 ppc64 boxen. However getting a build to actually happen in the secret sequence and install the secret bits takes a lot of patience. I have just accepted that I will just keep on plugging away over and over and eventually arrive at a machine with all cores working and a recent up to date kernel and other bits. Getting there is like crawling through the swamps of Mordor with one core and one thread working. Dennis
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