Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 15:24:13 +0100 (MET) From: Peter Mutsaers <plm@xs4all.nl> To: grog@lemis.de (Greg Lehey) Cc: hackers@freebsd.org (FreeBSD Hackers) Subject: Re: bisdn Message-ID: <199702011424.PAA00225@plm.xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <199702011315.OAA19288@freebie.lemis.de> References: <8720b6wb2e.fsf@localhost.xs4all.nl> <199702011315.OAA19288@freebie.lemis.de>
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>> On Sat, 1 Feb 1997 14:15:05 +0100 (MET), Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.de> said:
GL> Peter Mutsaers writes:
>> > On Mon, 27 Jan 1997 15:42:04 +0100 (MET), Greg Lehey
>> > <grog@lemis.de> said:
>>
GL> Well, to be fair, Gary Jennejohn replied and told me that this
GL> related to ppp, which I don't use. I think the problem there
GL> is that not many people use ppp over here, so it's not
GL> surprising that it's taking a long time.
>>
>> Yes, that is the problem for most people. I'm surprised that you don't
>> use PPP! Here all ISP's offer ISDN access only through syncPPP. I
>> can't even think of another way. If you don't use PPP, then how do you
>> get TCP/IP over ISDN?
GL> Why should you need ppp to run IP? None of the high-speed lines do.
GL> They run a straight layer 2 protocol--HDLC, in the case of ISDN over
GL> here. ppp just adds encapsulation overhead.
Indeed, but in practice, every home user who connects to an ISP needs PPP.
There aren't many that can afford dedicated links.
At least I don't know of any ISP's that offer other ways for
TCP/IP connection.
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