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Date:      Fri, 1 Feb 2002 11:21:59 +0100
From:      "Roel Kroes" <freebsd@Kroes.com>
To:        "Shawn Halloran" <SPHalloran2@hotmail.com>
Cc:        <freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: Question Regarding IENTD
Message-ID:  <004501c1ab0a$48e95b40$9b00000a@roelxp>
References:  <OE14vZ60nBsUum1nDS600022592@hotmail.com>

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The first time i installed FreeBSD it failed too and I had the same =
feeling. So, you are not alone out there.

When i finally got it installed (after lots of coffee), i had to find =
all the .conf files and find out how everything is configured. Like =
Apache, MySQL and the lot. *Sigh*

Someone suggested me to start with Webmin, a webbased configuration tool =
for all kinds of OS'es.=20
Now THAT was easy. Configuring FreeBSD was a breeze after I installed =
webmin. It lets me edit something in my browser and review the changes =
in the conf files. So i even learned something from it. Webmin lets you =
administer Apache, MySQL, FTP services, users, mailinglists and more all =
from your web browser.=20

I can also think of lots of disadvantages for using such a tool but you =
say that all you want is to provide web services to small businesses. =
Then this is what you want.

Have a look at http://www.webmin.com/=20

Good luck.

R.

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Shawn Halloran=20
  To: Matt H ; Christian Nelson=20
  Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG=20
  Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 10:58 AM
  Subject: Re: Question Regarding IENTD


  Well, I'm a newbie and I'll respond to newbieism.

  I tried my first install last night and it failed. I'll try again this =
week end with a different partition (slice) structure. I don't know =
whether I should send out an SOS or sink into the abyss alone. I know =
I'll be able to learn this OS, but it's been a long time since I've =
experienced such confusion when sitting at a keyboard. Whether anybody =
gives a s@$% or not, my motivations to learn FreeBSD include a) a desire =
to provide web services to small businesses b) a free OS used by 60% of =
the servers on the web, , b) Apache Server (open-source software) and, =
c) no licensing restrictions.

  Any suggestions? I'm getting the feeling I need to approach this =
project with a lot of optimism. =20

  Shawn H
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Matt H
    Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 1:44 AM
    To: Christian Nelson
    Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG
    Subject: Re: Question Regarding IENTD

    On Thu, 31 Jan 2002 21:46:04 -0800
    "Christian Nelson" <freshzive@charter.net> wrote:

    > Hi..I'm new to the mailing lists.so give me a break here..and let =
me
    > know if I'm doing this totally wrong.

    yeah, you should direct questions to freebsd-questions and not =
newbies

    newbies is for, well, people to discuss what it's like being a =
newbie and I've never seen any traffic in here regarding newbieism butI =
do see plenty of mis-directed questions...


    > (http/ssh/ssh2/ftp all work fine) except that for some reason I =
cannot
    > get IDENTD to work. I had it running before it was behind the =
router
    > fine and it worked great.

    Once they dig around a bit most people dump inetd as it's not a =
great piece of software. Apparently it leaks memory (bad thing) and can =
be insecure (badder thing)

    the alternatives usually recommended are xinetd, tcpwrapeprs or =
tcpserver

    I use tcpserver because that's what gets installed when you replace =
sendmail with qmail

    you might get different and possibly better advice from =
freebsd-questions though

    M

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>R.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
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  <A title=3DSPHalloran2@hotmail.com =
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  href=3D"mailto:freshzive@charter.net">Christian Nelson</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A =
title=3Dfreebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG">freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG</=
A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, February 01, 2002 =
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Question Regarding =

  IENTD</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>Well, I'm a newbie and I'll respond to newbieism.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>I tried my first install last night and it failed. I'll try again =
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  week end with a different partition (slice) structure. I don't know =
whether I=20
  should send out an SOS or sink into the abyss alone. I know I'll be =
able to=20
  learn this OS, but it's been a long time since I've experienced such =
confusion=20
  when sitting at a keyboard. Whether anybody gives a <A=20
  href=3D"mailto:s@$%">s@$%</A> or not, my motivations to learn FreeBSD =
include a)=20
  a desire to provide web services to small businesses b)&nbsp;a free OS =
used by=20
  60% of the servers on the web, , b) Apache Server (open-source =
software) and,=20
  c) no licensing restrictions.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Any suggestions? I'm getting the feeling&nbsp;I need to approach =
this=20
  project&nbsp;with a lot of optimism. &nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Shawn H</DIV>
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    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial">----- Original Message -----</DIV>
    <DIV=20
    style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt Arial; COLOR: =
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    Matt H</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, February 01, =
2002 1:44=20
    AM</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>To:</B> Christian Nelson</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Cc:</B> =
freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Question =
Regarding=20
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    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>On Thu, 31 Jan 2002 21:46:04 -0800<BR>"Christian =
Nelson"=20
    &lt;freshzive@charter.net&gt; wrote:<BR><BR>&gt; Hi..I'm new to the =
mailing=20
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this=20
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freebsd-questions=20
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it's=20
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regarding=20
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questions...<BR><BR><BR>&gt;=20
    (http/ssh/ssh2/ftp all work fine) except that for some reason I=20
    cannot<BR>&gt; get IDENTD to work. I had it running before it was =
behind the=20
    router<BR>&gt; fine and it worked great.<BR><BR>Once they dig around =
a bit=20
    most people dump inetd as it's not a great piece of software. =
Apparently it=20
    leaks memory (bad thing) and can be insecure (badder =
thing)<BR><BR>the=20
    alternatives usually recommended are xinetd, tcpwrapeprs or=20
    tcpserver<BR><BR>I use tcpserver because that's what gets installed =
when you=20
    replace sendmail with qmail<BR><BR>you might get different and =
possibly=20
    better advice from freebsd-questions though<BR><BR>M<BR><BR>To =
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