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Date:      Fri, 1 Feb 2002 11:21:59 +0100
From:      "Roel Kroes" <freebsd@Kroes.com>
To:        "Shawn Halloran" <SPHalloran2@hotmail.com>
Cc:        <freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: Question Regarding IENTD
Message-ID:  <004501c1ab0a$48e95b40$9b00000a@roelxp>
References:  <OE14vZ60nBsUum1nDS600022592@hotmail.com>

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The first time i installed FreeBSD it failed too and I had the same feeling. So, you are not alone out there.

When i finally got it installed (after lots of coffee), i had to find all the .conf files and find out how everything is configured. Like Apache, MySQL and the lot. *Sigh*

Someone suggested me to start with Webmin, a webbased configuration tool for all kinds of OS'es. 
Now THAT was easy. Configuring FreeBSD was a breeze after I installed webmin. It lets me edit something in my browser and review the changes in the conf files. So i even learned something from it. Webmin lets you administer Apache, MySQL, FTP services, users, mailinglists and more all from your web browser. 

I can also think of lots of disadvantages for using such a tool but you say that all you want is to provide web services to small businesses. Then this is what you want.

Have a look at http://www.webmin.com/ 

Good luck.

R.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Shawn Halloran 
  To: Matt H ; Christian Nelson 
  Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG 
  Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 10:58 AM
  Subject: Re: Question Regarding IENTD


  Well, I'm a newbie and I'll respond to newbieism.

  I tried my first install last night and it failed. I'll try again this week end with a different partition (slice) structure. I don't know whether I should send out an SOS or sink into the abyss alone. I know I'll be able to learn this OS, but it's been a long time since I've experienced such confusion when sitting at a keyboard. Whether anybody gives a s@$% or not, my motivations to learn FreeBSD include a) a desire to provide web services to small businesses b) a free OS used by 60% of the servers on the web, , b) Apache Server (open-source software) and, c) no licensing restrictions.

  Any suggestions? I'm getting the feeling I need to approach this project with a lot of optimism.  

  Shawn H
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Matt H
    Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 1:44 AM
    To: Christian Nelson
    Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG
    Subject: Re: Question Regarding IENTD

    On Thu, 31 Jan 2002 21:46:04 -0800
    "Christian Nelson" <freshzive@charter.net> wrote:

    > Hi..I'm new to the mailing lists.so give me a break here..and let me
    > know if I'm doing this totally wrong.

    yeah, you should direct questions to freebsd-questions and not newbies

    newbies is for, well, people to discuss what it's like being a newbie and I've never seen any traffic in here regarding newbieism butI do see plenty of mis-directed questions...


    > (http/ssh/ssh2/ftp all work fine) except that for some reason I cannot
    > get IDENTD to work. I had it running before it was behind the router
    > fine and it worked great.

    Once they dig around a bit most people dump inetd as it's not a great piece of software. Apparently it leaks memory (bad thing) and can be insecure (badder thing)

    the alternatives usually recommended are xinetd, tcpwrapeprs or tcpserver

    I use tcpserver because that's what gets installed when you replace sendmail with qmail

    you might get different and possibly better advice from freebsd-questions though

    M

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>The first time i installed FreeBSD it failed too and I had 
the same feeling. So, you are not alone out there.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>When i finally got it installed (after lots of coffee), i 
had to find all the .conf files and find out how everything is configured. Like 
Apache, MySQL and the lot. *Sigh*</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Someone suggested me to start with Webmin, a webbased 
configuration tool for all kinds of OS'es. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Now THAT was easy. Configuring FreeBSD was a 
breeze&nbsp;after I installed webmin. It lets me edit something in my browser 
and review the changes in the conf files. So i even learned something from it. 
</FONT><FONT face=Arial>Webmin lets you&nbsp;administer Apache, MySQL, FTP 
services, users, mailinglists and more&nbsp;all from your web browser. 
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>I&nbsp;can also think of&nbsp;lots of disadvantages for 
using such a tool but you say that all you want is to provide web services to 
small businesses. Then this is what you want.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Have a&nbsp;look at <A 
href="http://www.webmin.com/">http://www.webmin.com/</A>&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>;
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Good luck.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>R.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV 
  style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
  <A title=SPHalloran2@hotmail.com href="mailto:SPHalloran2@hotmail.com">Shawn 
  Halloran</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=matt@proweb.co.uk 
  href="mailto:matt@proweb.co.uk">Matt H</A> ; <A title=freshzive@charter.net 
  href="mailto:freshzive@charter.net">Christian Nelson</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG 
  href="mailto:freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG">freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG</A> 
  </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, February 01, 2002 10:58 
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Question Regarding 
  IENTD</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>Well, I'm a newbie and I'll respond to newbieism.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>I tried my first install last night and it failed. I'll try again this 
  week end with a different partition (slice) structure. I don't know whether I 
  should send out an SOS or sink into the abyss alone. I know I'll be able to 
  learn this OS, but it's been a long time since I've experienced such confusion 
  when sitting at a keyboard. Whether anybody gives a <A 
  href="mailto:s@$%">s@$%</A> or not, my motivations to learn FreeBSD include a) 
  a desire to provide web services to small businesses b)&nbsp;a free OS used by 
  60% of the servers on the web, , b) Apache Server (open-source software) and, 
  c) no licensing restrictions.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Any suggestions? I'm getting the feeling&nbsp;I need to approach this 
  project&nbsp;with a lot of optimism. &nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Shawn H</DIV>
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    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial">----- Original Message -----</DIV>
    <DIV 
    style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt Arial; COLOR: black"><B>From:</B> 
    Matt H</DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, February 01, 2002 1:44 
    AM</DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>To:</B> Christian Nelson</DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Cc:</B> freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG</DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Question Regarding 
    IENTD</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>On Thu, 31 Jan 2002 21:46:04 -0800<BR>"Christian Nelson" 
    &lt;freshzive@charter.net&gt; wrote:<BR><BR>&gt; Hi..I'm new to the mailing 
    lists.so give me a break here..and let me<BR>&gt; know if I'm doing this 
    totally wrong.<BR><BR>yeah, you should direct questions to freebsd-questions 
    and not newbies<BR><BR>newbies is for, well, people to discuss what it's 
    like being a newbie and I've never seen any traffic in here regarding 
    newbieism butI do see plenty of mis-directed questions...<BR><BR><BR>&gt; 
    (http/ssh/ssh2/ftp all work fine) except that for some reason I 
    cannot<BR>&gt; get IDENTD to work. I had it running before it was behind the 
    router<BR>&gt; fine and it worked great.<BR><BR>Once they dig around a bit 
    most people dump inetd as it's not a great piece of software. Apparently it 
    leaks memory (bad thing) and can be insecure (badder thing)<BR><BR>the 
    alternatives usually recommended are xinetd, tcpwrapeprs or 
    tcpserver<BR><BR>I use tcpserver because that's what gets installed when you 
    replace sendmail with qmail<BR><BR>you might get different and possibly 
    better advice from freebsd-questions though<BR><BR>M<BR><BR>To Unsubscribe: 
    send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org<BR>with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in 
    the body of the message<BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR clear=all>
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