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Date:      Tue, 25 Feb 2003 14:03:22 +0100
From:      Christian Brueffer <chris@unixpages.org>
To:        Kurt Bigler <kkb@breathhost.net>
Cc:        freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: website suggestions re ports and packages
Message-ID:  <20030225130322.GB586@unixpages.org>
In-Reply-To: <BA8023D0.714E%kkb@breathhost.net>
References:  <FF74D248-481B-11D7-B2B0-000393460DB2@FreeBSD.org> <BA8023D0.714E%kkb@breathhost.net>

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On Mon, Feb 24, 2003 at 07:32:32PM -0800, Kurt Bigler wrote:
> 
> Thanks.  I eventually found that page again.
> 
> For the website maintainers, I have some updated observations from my
> browsing experience.
> 
> When I first went browsing, I immediately saw the "Run a huge number of
> applications" title.  The text there contained an applications link, which
> took me to:
> 
>     http://www.FreeBSD.org/applications.html
> 
> Fairly prominent on that pages is a paragraph with two embedded links
>     packages collection
> and
>     ports collection
> 
> I clicked on packages collection which is what I was most interested in.
> This took me to http://www.FreeBSD.org/where.html, a page with two sections
> entitled
> 
>     The Packages collection
> 
> and
> 
>     The Ports collection
> 
> and the information there makes it sound as if the two collections are
> mutually exclusive.  But the information there was also incomplete based on
> my memory of having once read a more verbose description comparing and
> contrasing packages and ports, which led me to writing my previous email.
> 
> I certainly never expected to find more information about BOTH packages and
> ports by going back to the home page and clicking on the Ported Applications
> link, although I eventually did this by mistake, and it turns out that that
> page
> 
>     http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/index.html
> 
> contains more information about both ports and packages, and also described
> that packages are kind of special case of ports.  And this was the page I
> had been looking for, well-hidden right out in the open given that I was
> more interested in packages and so keep steering away from "ports".
> 
> Curiously there is no link to this very helpful page under "The Ports
> collection" heading on the where.html page.
> 
> I think you can see how an attempt to find information can be thwarted by
> the current structure.  Basically instead of having little tutorial-like
> sections scattered around in a fairly unstructured and semi-redundant way,
> it would be good if the actual structure of the information were made more
> explicit.  For example instead of having two pages that introduce both
> packages and ports with related kinds of description but containing
> different information (and in fact conflicting points of view), it would be
> better to have one single place that introduces both packages and ports.
> This page should ideally be hard to avoid in any browsing for information on
> either topic.
> 
> Please let me know if further clarification would be helpful.  (Again,
> please email directly since I am not currently a list member.)
> 
> Thanks,
> Kurt Bigler
> 

I just looked over where.html and there a a couple of dead links anyway.
I'll have a look at it and add some pointers to the pages that actually
describe ports/packages.

Thanks for the hints.

- Christian

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