Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 19:29:35 +1300 (NZDT) From: Atom Smasher <atom@smasher.org> To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD has serious problems with focus, longevity, and lifecycle Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1201171922570.21214@oreo.lan> In-Reply-To: <4F14E0A1.4080306@rawbw.com> References: <alpine.BSF.2.00.1112211415580.19710@kozubik.com> <alpine.DEB.2.00.1201171333550.21214@oreo.lan> <4F14E0A1.4080306@rawbw.com>
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On Mon, 16 Jan 2012, Yuri wrote:
> On 01/16/2012 17:03, Atom Smasher wrote:
>>
>> i bought myself a LENOVO T510 when it first came out, around early
>> 2010. it's got an i5 CPU and Arrandale GPU. it's two years old and on
>> freeBSD i STILL can't run xorg properly with it. linux has run fine
>> with it since i opened the box. last i checked, freeBSD will be support
>> this GPU in R9... or maybe R10...?
>
> The usual explanation for this is that FreeBSD is the server OS and
> doesn't need to worry about desktop-only hardware. (Not that I agree
> with such position.) I noticed that FreeBSD overall isn't too good for
> laptops (correct me if I am wrong). Even if Arrandale GPU worked, there
> is no working network manager in kde or gnome, able to find and setup
> WiFi networks without user typing anything. Also FreeBSD isn't able to
> enter (and come back from) the sleep mode. Also it can't stop the hard
> drives when the system is idle (last time I tried I got system crash).
> These make it very difficult to use FreeBSD on the laptops. Major
> usability issues.
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so i guess that means that i'm tougher than a typical laptop user... and
instead of making things easier, freeBSD is getting harder.
thing is, when people don't "play" with freeBSD on laptops and desktops,
then they grow up, get real jobs, and don't know much about it.
if this keeps up, i'll cross a line where i just get more comfortable with
linux and migrate my freeBSD servers to it.
this is one of the areas where linux is doing well... people are "playing"
with it, but in the process they're getting used to it and comfortable
with it. from that background, they can install a linux based server
without breaking a sweat. linux's ease of use and hardware support are
seeding the next generation of FLOSS and *nix users... and most of them
have never installed/used freeBSD.
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