Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2013 21:41:48 +0800 From: Julian Elischer <julian@freebsd.org> To: Freddie Cash <fjwcash@gmail.com> Cc: Alfred Perlstein <bright@mu.org>, FreeBSD-Current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: rcs Message-ID: <52555D1C.8010407@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <CAOjFWZ4xq3fTQc_%2B7i68HVa3xO6-uXUPt=hAPnH5fv0z9D5WRQ@mail.gmail.com> References: <60177810-8DC4-4EA3-8040-A834B79039D2@orthanc.ca> <52538EDC.2080001@freebsd.org> <52541202.3010707@mu.org> <20131008.170444.74714516.sthaug@nethelp.no> <52542BD4.5070706@FreeBSD.org> <52542E1D.9000000@mu.org> <CAOjFWZ4xq3fTQc_%2B7i68HVa3xO6-uXUPt=hAPnH5fv0z9D5WRQ@mail.gmail.com>
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On 10/9/13 2:35 AM, Freddie Cash wrote: > On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Alfred Perlstein <bright@mu.org> wrote: > >> You're right on the money, to be honest this is one of the reasons why >> I've switched to using OSX as my desktop OS. >> >> zsh, vim, screen by default. and upgrades work. At the end of the day >> I'm spending time doing work, not mucking about my workspace to make it >> usable for development. >> >> I think this was brought up at BSDCan in the discussion about making >> FreeBSD a more featured development platform. >> >> Speaking of... has anyone tried PCBSD? > > PC-BSD isn't much different from FreeBSD. The installer is GUI and support > ZFS, there are some GUI setup tools on first boot for X, there are some GUI > tools to select binary drivers for X, and there are working pkgng repos > available. > > I had a lot of issues with PC-BSD 9.0 and 9.1 as I was trying to do things > "the FreeBSD way" which broke a lot of things that were done "the PC-BSD > way" (aka don't manually edit config files used for booting). > > Switching to the "rolling-release" (aka PC-BSD 9-STABLE) and moving all my > config file edits into <filename>.conf.local fixed my issues. Things have > been running smooth, and I finally understand the beauty and simplicity of > freebsd-update + pkg. OS gets updated once per month, packages get updated > twice per month, no more compiling things from source. It's like using > Ubuntu/Debian but with the power and features of FreeBSD. :) > When they went to a ZFS-only system, using GRUB, with no alternative, then I'm afraid they lost me. I want a root filesystem on UFS for reliabailty and simpleness. I can debug it's media if needed. Before then I really liked it (though ther eis not enough information on how it works interneally if you want to use it. hopefully that will come.. and I LIKE PBIs FreeBSD should adopt PBIs for sure. With PBIs you could make even quite base items separately installable. versioning problems go away.
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