Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2007 15:12:22 -0600 (MDT) From: "M. Warner Losh" <imp@bsdimp.com> To: nikolas.britton@gmail.com Cc: peterjeremy@optushome.com.au, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Do we need this junk? Message-ID: <20070406.151222.1474621552.imp@bsdimp.com> In-Reply-To: <ef10de9a0704060715s6b5957daq2fe8a465362e3446@mail.gmail.com> References: <ef10de9a0704050839g7b873dabw5a5e211140781781@mail.gmail.com> <20070405.140109.39240822.imp@bsdimp.com> <ef10de9a0704060715s6b5957daq2fe8a465362e3446@mail.gmail.com>
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"Nikolas Britton" <nikolas.britton@gmail.com> writes:
: On 4/5/07, Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> wrote:
: > From: "Nikolas Britton" <nikolas.britton@gmail.com>
: > Subject: Re: Do we need this junk?
: > Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 10:39:41 -0500
: >
: > > On 4/5/07, Peter Jeremy <peterjeremy@optushome.com.au> wrote:
: > > > [-stable removed since it's not relevant there]
: > > >
: > > > On 2007-Apr-05 04:58:17 -0500, Nikolas Britton <nikolas.britton@gmail.com> wrote:
: > > > >Can anything in the list below be removed from CURRENT?
: > > > >
: > > > >legacyfree1# cd dev/
: > > > >legacyfree1# grep -irsn isa ./ | grep -i include
: > > > ...
: > > > >legacyfree1# grep -irsn mca ./ | grep -i include
: > > > ...
: > > >
: > > > Why do you believe anything in the list might need to be removed?
: > > >
: > >
: > > I'd like to also add that 6-STABLE should be the last branch to support:
: > > 1. ISA / EISA
: >
: > Not going to happen. Maybe EISA, but certainly not ISA, as machines
: > made today still need it.
: >
: > > 2. PC98 Platform.
: >
: > What do you care? I mean really, what do you care here. There are
: > Pentium II class machines that are perfectly good in this class of
: > machines. I have one and it runs just fine.
: >
: > > 3. i486
: >
: > So you want to kill all the soekris boxes? Sorry, not going to
: > happen.
: >
: > > 4. i586
: >
: > These machines still work, and are still popular in the embedded space
: > due to their lower power consumption.
: >
: > Warner
: >
:
: Well based on the stats I've posted maybe it's time to split FreeBSD
: i386 into two platforms, one for embedded/legacy systems and one for
: modern systems? The needs for each type of system are diametrically
: opposed, and the modern ones make up the majority of deployed systems.
: Perhaps FreeBSD i786 or IA32, with the minimum target being a
: Willamette based Pentium 4, aka SSE2?
There's no need. Thank you for your input. It has been noted and
given all the weight it deserves. Have a nice day.
Warner
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