Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 12:19:02 -0400 From: "Drew J. Weaver" <drew.weaver@thenap.com> To: "'freebsd-isp@freebsd.org'" <freebsd-isp@freebsd.org> Subject: RE: Chasing the kiddies (was: Named Keep crashing) Message-ID: <B1A7D9973EBED3119ADD009027DC8649180F7F@mailman.thenap.com>
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This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0BD22.F63C5C24 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Just an off topic note here, FreeBSD, BSDi/OS and RedHat are all of equal "difficulty" to administer, I run all 3 and none of them make me shiver in my boots. Not sure what point you're attempting to make here? --- quoth the raven, --- Everybody should start with a *nix running on a publicly accessable box. (Note: Linux doesn't count here, except possibly really old versions of Slackware. Damned RH makes things too easy. No X either - CLI, people!) ________________________________________________________________________ Chet Hosey <chosey@nidhog.com> ________________________________________________________________________ On Wed, 4 Apr 2001, Bill Vermillion wrote: > On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 05:45:48PM +1000, Enno Davids thus spoke: > > > | > Is there any way to trace who is doing it? | > Running tcpdump > > with certain filter settings to avoid logging everything and > > filling the disk? > > > > | Dont bother... Just install the fixed version of bind... > > | Every kid with a script and an internet connection is probably > > | doing this to you!!! > > > This response kind of bothers me. There was a time > > when everytime I could sanely trace spammers I emailed > > abuse@wherever.was.relevant to advise them. Similarly, when people > > probed Apache I'd send off adivsory emails. > > If you find a way this works let me know. I've given up doing this > because except for the most well known, I've received rejects from > all mail addresses at the offending provider, root,abuse, > postmaster, webmaster, etc. So I just gave up and put the in > the REJECT list. > > Those days responsible people, and not quick buck artists, we're > keeping the 'net running. > > > There was a time when if you probed the Apache on my machine it > > winnuke'd you back. Moral issues aside, there _was_ a great deal > > of satisfaction there... Needless to say, there's little mileage > > in this now (damned M$ service packs!). :) > > I never was into 'revenge' or 'tit-for-tat'. > > Bill > -- > Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv . com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0BD22.F63C5C24 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META NAME=3D"Generator" CONTENT=3D"MS Exchange Server version = 5.5.2650.12"> <TITLE>RE: Chasing the kiddies (was: Named Keep crashing)</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY> <P> <FONT SIZE=3D2>Just an = off topic note here, FreeBSD, BSDi/OS and RedHat are all of equal = "difficulty" to administer, I run all 3 and none of them make = me shiver in my boots. Not sure what point you're attempting to make = here?</FONT></P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>--- quoth the raven, --- </FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Everybody should start with a *nix running on a = publicly accessable box.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>(Note: Linux doesn't count here, except possibly = really old versions of</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Slackware. Damned RH makes things too easy. No X = either - CLI, people!)</FONT> </P> <P><FONT = SIZE=3D2>_______________________________________________________________= _________</FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Chet Hosey</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2><chosey@nidhog.com></FONT> <BR><FONT = SIZE=3D2>_______________________________________________________________= _________</FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>On Wed, 4 Apr 2001, Bill Vermillion wrote:</FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>> On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 05:45:48PM +1000, Enno = Davids thus spoke:</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > | > Is there any way to trace who is = doing it? | > Running tcpdump</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > with certain filter settings to avoid = logging everything and</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > filling the disk?</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > | Dont bother... Just install the fixed = version of bind...</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > | Every kid with a script and an internet = connection is probably</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > | doing this to you!!!</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > This response kind of bothers me. There = was a time</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > when everytime I could sanely trace = spammers I emailed</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > abuse@wherever.was.relevant to advise = them. Similarly, when people</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > probed Apache I'd send off adivsory = emails.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> If you find a way this works let me know. = I've given up doing this</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> because except for the most well known, I've = received rejects from</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> all mail addresses at the offending provider, = root,abuse,</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> postmaster, webmaster, etc. So I just = gave up and put the in</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> the REJECT list.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> Those days responsible people, and not quick = buck artists, we're</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> keeping the 'net running.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > There was a time when if you probed the = Apache on my machine it</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > winnuke'd you back. Moral issues aside, = there _was_ a great deal</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > of satisfaction there... Needless to say, = there's little mileage</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > in this now (damned M$ service packs!). = :)</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> I never was into 'revenge' or = 'tit-for-tat'.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> Bill</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> --</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv . = com</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> To Unsubscribe: send mail to = majordomo@FreeBSD.org</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the = body of the message</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>></FONT> </P> <BR> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>To Unsubscribe: send mail to = majordomo@FreeBSD.org</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body = of the message</FONT> </P> </BODY> </HTML> ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0BD22.F63C5C24-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message
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