Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 12:19:02 -0400 From: "Drew J. Weaver" <drew.weaver@thenap.com> To: "'freebsd-isp@freebsd.org'" <freebsd-isp@freebsd.org> Subject: RE: Chasing the kiddies (was: Named Keep crashing) Message-ID: <B1A7D9973EBED3119ADD009027DC8649180F7F@mailman.thenap.com>
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[-- Attachment #1 --] Just an off topic note here, FreeBSD, BSDi/OS and RedHat are all of equal "difficulty" to administer, I run all 3 and none of them make me shiver in my boots. Not sure what point you're attempting to make here? --- quoth the raven, --- Everybody should start with a *nix running on a publicly accessable box. (Note: Linux doesn't count here, except possibly really old versions of Slackware. Damned RH makes things too easy. No X either - CLI, people!) ________________________________________________________________________ Chet Hosey <chosey@nidhog.com> ________________________________________________________________________ On Wed, 4 Apr 2001, Bill Vermillion wrote: > On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 05:45:48PM +1000, Enno Davids thus spoke: > > > | > Is there any way to trace who is doing it? | > Running tcpdump > > with certain filter settings to avoid logging everything and > > filling the disk? > > > > | Dont bother... Just install the fixed version of bind... > > | Every kid with a script and an internet connection is probably > > | doing this to you!!! > > > This response kind of bothers me. There was a time > > when everytime I could sanely trace spammers I emailed > > abuse@wherever.was.relevant to advise them. Similarly, when people > > probed Apache I'd send off adivsory emails. > > If you find a way this works let me know. I've given up doing this > because except for the most well known, I've received rejects from > all mail addresses at the offending provider, root,abuse, > postmaster, webmaster, etc. So I just gave up and put the in > the REJECT list. > > Those days responsible people, and not quick buck artists, we're > keeping the 'net running. > > > There was a time when if you probed the Apache on my machine it > > winnuke'd you back. Moral issues aside, there _was_ a great deal > > of satisfaction there... Needless to say, there's little mileage > > in this now (damned M$ service packs!). :) > > I never was into 'revenge' or 'tit-for-tat'. > > Bill > -- > Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv . com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message [-- Attachment #2 --] <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META NAME="Generator" CONTENT="MS Exchange Server version 5.5.2650.12"> <TITLE>RE: Chasing the kiddies (was: Named Keep crashing)</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY> <P> <FONT SIZE=2>Just an off topic note here, FreeBSD, BSDi/OS and RedHat are all of equal "difficulty" to administer, I run all 3 and none of them make me shiver in my boots. Not sure what point you're attempting to make here?</FONT></P> <P><FONT SIZE=2>--- quoth the raven, --- </FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=2>Everybody should start with a *nix running on a publicly accessable box.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>(Note: Linux doesn't count here, except possibly really old versions of</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>Slackware. Damned RH makes things too easy. No X either - CLI, people!)</FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=2>________________________________________________________________________</FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=2>Chet Hosey</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2><chosey@nidhog.com></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>________________________________________________________________________</FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=2>On Wed, 4 Apr 2001, Bill Vermillion wrote:</FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=2>> On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 05:45:48PM +1000, Enno Davids thus spoke:</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > | > Is there any way to trace who is doing it? | > Running tcpdump</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > with certain filter settings to avoid logging everything and</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > filling the disk?</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > | Dont bother... Just install the fixed version of bind...</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > | Every kid with a script and an internet connection is probably</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > | doing this to you!!!</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > This response kind of bothers me. There was a time</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > when everytime I could sanely trace spammers I emailed</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > abuse@wherever.was.relevant to advise them. Similarly, when people</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > probed Apache I'd send off adivsory emails.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> If you find a way this works let me know. I've given up doing this</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> because except for the most well known, I've received rejects from</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> all mail addresses at the offending provider, root,abuse,</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> postmaster, webmaster, etc. So I just gave up and put the in</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> the REJECT list.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Those days responsible people, and not quick buck artists, we're</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> keeping the 'net running.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > There was a time when if you probed the Apache on my machine it</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > winnuke'd you back. Moral issues aside, there _was_ a great deal</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > of satisfaction there... Needless to say, there's little mileage</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > in this now (damned M$ service packs!). :)</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> I never was into 'revenge' or 'tit-for-tat'.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Bill</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> --</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv . com</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>></FONT> </P> <BR> <P><FONT SIZE=2>To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message</FONT> </P> </BODY> </HTML>help
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