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Date:      Mon, 28 Oct 2013 13:14:46 +0000
From:      Bob Bishop <rb@gid.co.uk>
To:        Gleb Smirnoff <glebius@freebsd.org>
Cc:        stable@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: [heads up] axing AppleTalk and IPX/SPX
Message-ID:  <F10B85BC-7027-4061-9B03-157102819453@gid.co.uk>
In-Reply-To: <20131028124221.GO52889@glebius.int.ru>
References:  <20131028124221.GO52889@glebius.int.ru>

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Hi,

On 28 Oct 2013, at 12:42, Gleb Smirnoff wrote:

>  Hello!
>=20
>  [Cc to stable@, for wider audience]
>=20
>  The plan is two axe two old networking protocols from FreeBSD head/,
> meaning that FreeBSD 11.0-RELEASE, available in couple of years would
> be shipped without them.
>=20
> 1) AppleTalk
>=20
>   Last time claimed to be supported by vendor in 2007[1]. In practice
>   had very little use since 90th.
>   Discontinued by major routing equipment vendors since 2009[2].

More pertinantly, netatalk dropped AppleTalk support with v3.0 in =
2012[a].

[a] http://netatalk.sourceforge.net/3.0/ReleaseNotes-3.0-alpha1.html

> 2) IPX
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>   Last time claimed to be supported by vendor in 2007[3]. In practice
>   had very little use since 90th.
>   Discontinued by major routing equipment vendors since 2011[4].
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> Current status of these protocols in FreeBSD is "compilable". For the
> next couple of years, we plan a lot of changes in networking stack,
> many of which will require changing the protocols, as well. Keeping
> them in compilable state would require additional manpower, but it
> is very probable, that after all the changes they will be utterly
> broken, albeit compilable.
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> P.S. I account any objector as taker of maintainership :)
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> [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS_X_v10.5
>    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS_X_v10.6
> [2] =
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/iosswrel/ps8802/ps5460/product_=
bulletin_c25-520459.html
> [3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Enterprise_Server#OES-NetWare
> [4] =
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios/novipx/configuration/guide/Novell_IPX_=
Discontinuation.html
>=20
> --=20
> Totus tuus, Glebius.
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