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Date:      Fri, 09 Jun 2000 10:33:33 +0100
From:      "Koster, K.J." <K.J.Koster@kpn.com>
To:        'FreeBSD Java mailing list' <freebsd-java@freebsd.org>
Cc:        "'jkh@FreeBSD.org'" <jkh@FreeBSD.org>
Subject:   RE: <insert witty subject here>
Message-ID:  <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E4522026D7636@l04.research.kpn.com>

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Hello people,

I've cc'd this to Jordan, because I believe he's closest to BSDi.

First off, I'm really happy that we've gotten this far with Sun. I'm happy
that BSDi is lending a hand.

Someone on the freebsd-alpha list expressed concern about the position of
the "other BSDs" (for want of a better word). I'm a little curious how they
fit in.

The way I see it, once we've got Sun's backing it will be easier for them to
get it too. Sun will have gone through the motions several times by then,
and may even have found that it's not all that painful. Also, they will have
a BSD specific patchset to work from, instead of a Solaris/Linux one.

On the other hand, perhaps we are in the position now to save them a lot of
frustration. There's interest in Java on the other BSDs too, of course.
Personally, I think it would be good for the quality of the patches if we
have a more homogenous OS group that they work on.

Perhaps we could negotiate a more open BSD license for the JDK, allowing
other BSDs in too, maybe based on the fact that we share a common ancestry.
This will save Sun quite some time in the future, because they don't have to
do the dance for each BSD individually. Another pro is that there would be a
single entity controlling the BSD ports, and possibly a single code base
too. This could reduce fragmentation over the BSDs, and it would improve the
quality of each individual port.

    Kees Jan

PS. "really happy" does not quite cover it.

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