Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 13:35:19 -0700 From: Bakul Shah <bakul@bitblocks.com> To: "C. P. Ghost" <cpghost@cordula.ws> Cc: Doug Barton <dougb@freebsd.org>, Ivan Voras <ivoras@freebsd.org>, Andrew Reilly <areilly@bigpond.net.au>, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Interpreted language(s) in the base Message-ID: <20100820203519.A48235B91@mail.bitblocks.com> In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 19 Aug 2010 20:35:59 %2B0200." <AANLkTi=z7Z2emB2tzxj73nJYLSSwUy4GSg8=h37Sb8gT@mail.gmail.com> References: <4C6505A4.9060203@FreeBSD.org> <4C650B75.3020800@FreeBSD.org> <4C651192.9020403@FreeBSD.org> <i477eo$i4d$1@dough.gmane.org> <4C673898.2080609@FreeBSD.org> <AANLkTim_prShRiHkLnFbhek9%2Beaa-KaJ5oZtNo%2BLd0K1@mail.gmail.com> <alpine.BSF.2.00.1008152240370.66595@qbhto.arg> <20100818134341.GA88861@johnny.reilly.home> <AANLkTinHtzt=ELPvQBaaRBUzN-U88EXDMenZwrRsY3NL@mail.gmail.com> <20100819172227.1AAE25B89@mail.bitblocks.com> <AANLkTi=z7Z2emB2tzxj73nJYLSSwUy4GSg8=h37Sb8gT@mail.gmail.com>
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On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 20:35:59 +0200 "C. P. Ghost" <cpghost@cordula.ws> wrote:
>
> But seriously, the point isn't so much which specific interpreter
> we use (if we go down this road), it's about libraries: most
> sysadmin tasks require some basic networking and I/O,
> and a FFI to seamlessly call out C functions from .so libs.
>
> And, of course, instead of writing 1,001 sysadmin scripts
> with endless code duplication and reinventing of the wheel,
> common sysadmin tasks should also be made into reusable
> functions, grouped into modules.
Exactly what I had in mind.
> > And we don't have to argue about which language. I would
> > suggest setting up a wiki page to list all the system scripts
> > people want to write and get cracking in your favorite
> > language! May the best effort win :-) At the very least we
> > will get some useful tools out of this effort. =A0I will
> > certainly help out with Scheme.
>
> Funny idea. I only hope we won't end up with a typical
> post-dot-com young developer distribution, a la:
>
> 60% PHP (yuck!)
> 25% Java (and XML-everywhere)
> 15% ${OTHERS}
>
> ;-)
If that is what people want then so be it :-)
But I think only "little" languages like forth, lua, sh, rc,
es & scheme have small footprint interpreters that start up
fast and are reasonably efficient.
Anyway, system programming in Scheme is what interests me and
something I already tinker with on and off. If anyone is
interested (in helping or just playing with it), let me know
privately (but *not* on this mailing list).
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