Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 08:46:54 +1000 From: Sam Lawrance <boris@brooknet.com.au> To: Garrett Cooper <youshi10@u.washington.edu> Cc: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AMD deciding _now_ what to do about Linux Message-ID: <A23625CF-A396-48F5-8959-63C0858EFCC1@brooknet.com.au> In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.43.0706151307480.18437@hymn01.u.washington.edu> References: <Pine.LNX.4.43.0706151307480.18437@hymn01.u.washington.edu>
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On 16/06/2007, at 6:07 AM, youshi10@u.washington.edu wrote: > On Fri, 15 Jun 2007, Ali Mashtizadeh wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Sun's pushing ATI/AMD to provide good drivers for Solaris, so it >> means they >> will have to work on the portability issue of their drivers. It is >> probably >> the best time to influence AMD's decision since they are going to >> do what >> Sun tells them. Nvidia has an easier time porting their drivers >> since the >> core of the driver is the same across all platforms AFAIK. >> Hopefully, they >> will realize the best stratedgy is to open source their drivers, >> which there >> has been some hints about it recently. >> >> -- >> Ali Mashtizadeh >> علی مشتی زاده >> >> On 6/15/07, Jeremy Chadwick <koitsu@freebsd.org> wrote: >>> >>> On Fri, Jun 15, 2007 at 02:03:39PM -0400, Ali Mashtizadeh wrote: >>> > Hey everyone, >>> > >>> > This email went out on Xorg I thought it might be useful for >>> all of us >>> stuck >>> > with ATI cards. We should all show our interest in AMD helping >>> out the >>> BSD >>> > community as well! Just like Nvidia has been doing! >>> >>> "Linux strategy" -- gotta love the use of the word "strategy", like >>> they're playing chess or Risk or Daisenryaku. Yes, because >>> supporting >>> an operating system involves "strategy". >>> >>> Not to sound rude, but I wouldn't hold your breath over the >>> statement. >>> Yes, *absolutely* mail them and show support for the BSDs, and >>> tell them >>> you'll be happy to beta test whatever they put out (as long as >>> they have >>> a good feedback method for reporting those bugs; not some defunct >>> HTML >>> form web page that sends submissions to /dev/null). >>> >>> I believe AMD/ATI cares about providing a good driver base (for >>> Linux >>> and probably the BSDs), but no matter how many customers mail >>> them, the >>> reality of the situation is a disappointing one: managers and >>> executives >>> of sorts are who have say over all of this, who decide all of >>> this, and >>> who ultimately make the statements on all of this. As a Texan co- >>> worker >>> of mine says, "too many chiefs, not enough indians". nVidia has the >>> same "problem", for what it's worth. >>> >>> -- >>> | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at >>> parodius.com | >>> | Parodius Networking http:// >>> www.parodius.com/ | >>> | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, >>> CA, USA | >>> | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: >>> 4BD6C0CB | > > 1. This shouldn't have been sent to the hackers@ list, because it's > more of a discussion than a technical topic. > 2. Please top post. > > Disregarding those 2 comments, I have a few thoughts: I'd certainly disregard that second point. :-)
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