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Date:      Mon, 11 Aug 1997 04:58:09 -0400
From:      "Joel N. Weber II" <devnull@gnu.ai.mit.edu>
To:        jmb@FreeBSD.ORG
Cc:        andrsn@andrsn.stanford.edu, jmb@FreeBSD.ORG, hoek@hwcn.org, softweyr@xmission.com, chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: FTC regulating use of registrations
Message-ID:  <199708110858.EAA11563@ethanol.gnu.ai.mit.edu>
In-Reply-To: <199708102137.OAA16731@hub.freebsd.org> (jmb@FreeBSD.ORG)

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	   inner city schools are so dangerous for at least two reasons:
		   the students that attend those schools 
		   the low level of funding per student

	   many rural schools have only the funding problem, but
	   are still "poor" schools due the way we have each school
	   district self-fund through local property taxes rather than
	   state-wide.

Hawaii does have a state-wide public school system, and it's widely
percieved as inadaquate.  Hawaii also has many more private schools
than the mainland.

	   vouchers pay people to segregate themselves from the rest of 
	   the community increasing the factionalism that we suffer from
	   today.

I'm not sure that I agree with this.  I lived for two and a half years
in an area of San Diego called Rancho Penasquitos.  It's a relatively
affluent area; the house I lived in was four bedroom, three bathroom,
three car garage house.  One reason many people choose to live there
is the good public school system.  (Poway Unified School District
is percieved as the good area; for various hysterical raisins it
includes two communities that are a part of San Diego, as well as
a seprate town called Poway.)

I think that the poorest people who atttend Iolani School (on scholarships)
are likely poorer than the poorest who attend Sunset Hills Elementary.

(Most of my friends seem to be on scholarships, despite the fact that
supposedly most people in the school aren't.)

So it seems to me that where we have a competitive education system,
different social classes will intermix more.  Because with the current
system, affluent people can buy homes in the more expensive areas,
and thus get into the rich districts.

	   for the ills that compulsory military service entails,
	   one benefit is to create a common experience shared by a 
	   large number of the adult population.  an experience that can
	   serve to unify the citizenry (provided its not abused, as it
	   was during the vietnam war)

That is bullshit.  My understanding is that if you went to college,
you could delay getting into the war.  And if you didn't get in the
war in your first year of elibility for the draft, you likely wouldn't,
because IIRC they would take every 18 year old they could before they
strated looking at the 19 year olds.  So if you got a deferment,
you'd likely be way down the list by the time you were in the pool
to be drafted again.

And in general, the affluent are more likely to go to college.


Anyway, I don't intend to go to college, but I am sure that I would
try to find some way to avoid going into the military if there is
a draft in the next few years (I'm 17 now).  I think that
making a career of killing people is just plain wrong.



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