Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2014 19:35:01 -0700 From: Peter Wemm <peter@wemm.org> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Cc: Michelle Sullivan <michelle@sorbs.net>, Chuck Burns <break19@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [HEADSUP] pkg(8) is now the only package management tool Message-ID: <4146485.LX4YG9YkhY@overcee.wemm.org> In-Reply-To: <540520FA.5030609@sorbs.net> References: <20140901195520.GB77917@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <obXJM3rmzx5Sv3mgR2FTKvSc27qA8FXW@keyhole.local> <540520FA.5030609@sorbs.net>
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[-- Attachment #1 --] On Tuesday 02 September 2014 03:44:26 Michelle Sullivan wrote: > Chuck Burns wrote: > > On Tuesday, September 02, 2014 2:19:19 AM Michelle Sullivan wrote: > >> Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > >>> Hi all, > >>> > >>> The ports tree has been modified to only support pkg(8) as package > >>> management system for all supported version of FreeBSD. > >>> > >>> if you were still using pkg_install (pkg_* tools) you will have to > >>> upgrade > >>> your system. > >>> > >>> The simplest way is > >>> cd /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/pkg > >>> make install > >>> then run > >>> pkg2ng > >>> > >>> You will have lots of warning, don't be scared, they are expected, pkg_* > >>> databases used to get easily mangled. pkg2ng is most of the time able to > >>> deal with it. > >>> > >>> If however you encounter a problem then please report to pkg@FreeBSD.org > >>> > >>> A tag has been applied to the ports tree if you need to get the latest > >>> ports tree before the EOL of pkg_install: > >>> https://svn.FreeBSD.org/ports/tags/PKG_INSTALL_EOL > >>> > >>> A branch has been created if some committers want to provides updates on > >>> the for pkg_install users: > >>> https://svn.FreeBSD.org/ports/branches/pkg_install > >>> > >>> Please note that this branch is not officially maintained and that we > >>> strongly recommend that you do migrate to pkg(8) > >>> > >>> Best regards, > >>> Bapt on behalf of portmgr > >> > >> And for the portsnap users? > > > > Uhh.. continue using portsnap? Why would that matter?? > > Because those who have not changed to pkg because of the continual > changes and issues (and that I have 50+ servers to migrate - and was > told that bapt was going to *knowingly* break the ports tree for anyone > not upgraded on Sept 1 - just 1 day after the EOL - with just 20 odd > days notice) 20 days notice?!? Where have you been? The first mention I can find of an actual deprecation is October 2012 where it says it'll be on or after April 2014, after the EOL of the last release that used pkg_install - which was 8.3: https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2012-October/078937.html There was a series of larger notices, eg: Oct 10, 2012: [FreeBSD-Ports-Announce] [HEADSUP] current switched by default to pkgng July 2013: [FreeBSD-Ports-Announce] [HEADSUP] No more pkg_install on HEAD by default October 30, 2013: [FreeBSD-Ports-Announce] Official FreeBSD Binary Packages now available for pkgng .. which includes "The pkg_install suite of tools pkg_create(1), pkg_add(1), and pkg_info(1) (which ports also use), are deprecated and will be discontinued in roughly 6 months." 4 months later, (Feb 2014) formally gave an additional 6 month warning: https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports-announce/2014-February/000077.html And a giant flashing light was added at the same time in Feb 2014: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ r342537 | bapt | 2014-02-04 06:23:08 -0800 (Tue, 04 Feb 2014) | 6 lines Add a user warning so that everyone get a notice about the upcoming EoL of pkg_install Add a end user NO_WARNING_PKG_INSTALL_EOL to allow users willing to stay a bit more with pkg_install to not get bothered all the time with the warning ------------------------------------------------------------------------ It's really loud and annoying: +.if !defined(WITH_PKGNG) && !defined(NO_WARNING_PKG_INSTALL_EOL) +WARNING+= "pkg_install EOL is scheduled for 2014-09-01. Please consider migrating to pkgng" ... +.if !defined(WITH_PKGNG) + @${ECHO_CMD} "@exec echo pkg_install EOL is scheduled for 2014-09-01. Please consider migrating to pkgng" >> ${TMPPLIST} Those warnings are kind of hard to miss. This has been in the pipeline for years and was highly visible. -- Peter Wemm - peter@wemm.org; peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; KI6FJV UTF-8: for when a ' or ... just won\342\200\231t do\342\200\246 [-- Attachment #2 --] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAABAgAGBQJUBSzbAAoJEDXWlwnsgJ4EHq8H/3w+Y4J4EaA7pgtxpcbMzYCx WRLkLj3H2xl11ZoNNDe9aIgTqph4SY+BZOoi2bLkVkZ4FpukLAtCuwikM9LmmjqT 9G1pQnRtxDGgeLoQKax5/9fW5QrD89FUDcytNWkuXpTtd9gXOUSdiXvse27Ws3oz Yauw5Op+lB5GukiuwSUkpZvvU9MJUadLVahNbzzJJ9vE/8Ci8+Yh7cYQBIP/fqlZ yxXFGMBXGcxRg6SfVXZ+1BGM9BaodbfA7EYLXUSW2lVvM4RqMatF7HTvchSRfMnp /Nq9q0QojGApYYQz5w8I1ihbdc7RhxyefSmnjf9riPqk87XCJMd0UEeRBBnUrEM= =DpAC -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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