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Date:      Wed, 29 Jul 1998 09:20:08 -0600
From:      Nate Williams <nate@mt.sri.com>
To:        Flemming Jacobsen <fj@login.dknet.dk>
Cc:        dburr@pobox.com (Donald Burr), freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, hasty@rah.star-gate.com, phk@FreeBSD.ORG, sos@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: The future of the bt848 driver?  (FW: cvs commit: CVSROOT avail)
Message-ID:  <199807291520.JAA26782@mt.sri.com>
In-Reply-To: <199807290915.LAA02623@login.dknet.dk>
References:  <XFMail.980728142732.dburr@pobox.com> <199807290915.LAA02623@login.dknet.dk>

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> > Why did it have to come down to this, anyway?  (Enquiring minds want to
> > know...)
> 
> Since it's unlikely that any of the three will comment, I'll
> share what I know. 
> 
> I've known PHK since highschool, and Soeren for a couple of
> years, thus when I saw Amancios post on -multimedia I sent them a
> mail which (in essence) said "What the fuck are you two bozos
> doing ?". We exchanged a flurry of emails that day (Fri 17) -
> sharing main language and timezone works wonders for communication.
> 
> What happened seem to be:
>   Soeren sent Amancio a patch to get his AVer Media card working 
> (10 lines added to the card table).
>   After waiting for 1+ months, Soeren checked it in himself.
>   Amancio didn't like this and wanted to back it out, but was
> told by PHK that this was unacceptable unless he added the same
> functionality.
>   Amancio couldn't accept this, and walked out.

Yep.  The only thing I want to point out is that both PHK and S'ren both
threw out the "I'm a core member and you better do what I tell you else
we'll yank your commit privileges" bit, which rubs *everyone* wrong.
This isn't the first time they've been heavy-handed about it, nor will
it be the last.

It annoys me that they can do *wrong* things in many people's minds and
justify them by being a 'core' member.  Being a core member doesn't make
it right anymore than just because they company is named Microsoft makes
everything they do wrong.



Nate

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