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Date:      Fri, 5 Jul 2002 17:04:23 -0700
From:      Brooks Davis <brooks@one-eyed-alien.net>
To:        Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>
Cc:        Garance A Drosihn <drosih@rpi.edu>, Paul Richards <paul@freebsd-services.com>, Sheldon Hearn <sheldonh@starjuice.net>, current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Removing perl in make world
Message-ID:  <20020705170423.C24073@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu>
In-Reply-To: <3D261EA4.ABC3AEC@mindspring.com>; from tlambert2@mindspring.com on Fri, Jul 05, 2002 at 03:33:08PM -0700
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On Fri, Jul 05, 2002 at 03:33:08PM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote:
> Others: I think the flaw in your idea is that you aren't
> really running -current, so why the heck aren't you just
> running -stable, instead of pretending to run -current?

Of course by this argument, we wouldn't be running -stable either...

I agree there is a need to allow developers to clean up their systems
to be as much like a clean install as possiable, but I definatly think
installworld is the wrong place to do so.  I'm also pretty convinced
that a make target is the wrong place entierly.  The problem is that if
you just go nuking everything that's OBE, you will break development
machines and that's unacceptable.  I can't just rebuild kde on a whim,
it takes 10-20 hours on my laptop (and since I last built it with gcc
2.x, it's presumably much worse now.)

What would be useful to me, would be a way to list the files that are
OBE so I can make a reasionable decision about removing them.  Idealy,
such a system would have some handy ldd scripts to tell me if libs are
used or not.  I think Paul's goal is fairly noble, but the suggest
solution is unacceptable in my book.

-- Brooks

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