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Date:      Wed, 3 Nov 2004 11:19:05 -0500 (EST)
From:      "Mike Jakubik" <mikej@rogers.com>
To:        "Andrey Chernov" <ache@nagual.pp.ru>
Cc:        current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Recent TTYDEF_LFLAG default change
Message-ID:  <43125.207.219.213.163.1099498745.squirrel@207.219.213.163>
In-Reply-To: <20041103111813.GB13047@nagual.pp.ru>
References:  <20041103111157.GA12950@nagual.pp.ru> <16110.1099480534@critter.freebsd.dk> <20041103111813.GB13047@nagual.pp.ru>

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Andrey Chernov said:

> On Wed, Nov 03, 2004 at 12:15:34PM +0100, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
>> Because if you open a serial port and it defaults to echo, you may end
>> up in
>> an "echo-war" with the other end before you ever get a chance to call
>> ioctl and disable echoing.
>
> Well, use TTYDEF_LFLAG_NOECHO I suggest for that case and leave
> user-visible default untouched to not break userland programs.

I agree. My terminal under bash still gets messed up after running
portupgrade.




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