Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 17:10:55 -0800 (PST) From: Dru Lavigne <dru.lavigne@att.net> To: "freebsd-doc@freebsd.org" <freebsd-doc@freebsd.org> Subject: updating ports Message-ID: <1391476255.71576.YahooMailNeo@web184905.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
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Currently, there are 2 Handbook sections that deal with upgrading ports: 5.6.3. Upgrading Ports (which describes the use of the portmaster and portupgrade ports) and 23.3. Portsnap: a Ports Collection Update Tool (which describes the built-in portsnap) I would like to combine these into 5.6.3. Do we want to encourage the use of third-party utils or just encourage the use of the built in one? If just the built in one, I'll replace 5.6.3 with the contents of 23.3 and reduce portmaster/portupgrade to a note that these utils are available in the ports collection. If we should describe all three, I'll place 23.3 as the first utility to be described in 5.6.3. Cheers, Dru From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 4 01:20:11 2014 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3A859179; Tue, 4 Feb 2014 01:20:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail0.glenbarber.us (mail0.glenbarber.us [IPv6:2607:fc50:1:2300:1001:1001:1001:face]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0D1551C26; Tue, 4 Feb 2014 01:20:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from glenbarber.us (nucleus.glenbarber.us [IPv6:2001:470:8:1205:2:2:ff:100]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: gjb) by mail0.glenbarber.us (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4EC0719D4F; Tue, 4 Feb 2014 01:20:09 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.8.3 mail0.glenbarber.us 4EC0719D4F Authentication-Results: mail0.glenbarber.us; dkim=none reason="no signature"; dkim-adsp=none Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 20:20:07 -0500 From: Glen Barber <gjb@FreeBSD.org> To: Dru Lavigne <dru@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: updating ports Message-ID: <20140204012007.GZ1766@glenbarber.us> References: <1391476255.71576.YahooMailNeo@web184905.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="tArtifyz9D3PkaxN" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1391476255.71576.YahooMailNeo@web184905.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 11.0-CURRENT amd64 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.22 (2013-10-16) Cc: "freebsd-doc@freebsd.org" <freebsd-doc@freebsd.org> X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project <freebsd-doc.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/freebsd-doc>, <mailto:freebsd-doc-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-doc/>; List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-doc@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-doc-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-doc>, <mailto:freebsd-doc-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2014 01:20:11 -0000 --tArtifyz9D3PkaxN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Feb 03, 2014 at 05:10:55PM -0800, Dru Lavigne wrote: > Currently, there are 2 Handbook sections that deal with upgrading ports: > > 5.6.3. Upgrading Ports (which describes the use of the portmaster and portupgrade ports) > > and > > 23.3. Portsnap: a Ports Collection Update Tool (which describes the built-in portsnap) > > I would like to combine these into 5.6.3. > > Do we want to encourage the use of third-party utils or just encourage the use of the built in one? > I think there are two separate topics here (without having looked at the Handbook sections yet). I don't think portmaster and portupgrade actually handle updating the ports tree itself, but handle upgrading/rebuilding ports within the ports tree. Portsnap, on the other hand, does not actually touch the software installed (meaning, it does not update the installed third-party software), but only handles updating the ports tree sources themselves. > If just the built in one, I'll replace 5.6.3 with the contents of 23.3 and reduce portmaster/portupgrade to a note that these utils are available in the ports collection. > > If we should describe all three, I'll place 23.3 as the first utility to be described in 5.6.3. > Glen --tArtifyz9D3PkaxN Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (FreeBSD) iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJS8EBGAAoJELls3eqvi17QlYEP/0xyJlkLHJiazrozn+95hudo UIEn2ecQXVITFW0c+DNHz2Z6Rd1GzD2m8c3TjsNhaUeioGYqRxApkvpIvpkJh25n Vizf4f1QQAcs1xyuYzQINFCS0PPk4nWOB955dqbn2e4FhWhBKerwyqWjOoE0Pj/O P4/R2tNs9phW+8wqDdHsaX0KoRnqyaXjTcoEKUsH6X4yy8ZHy6YjmOB+ylzG/Vs9 5d56uMlSU4OrSMfx4hdPpPRWJt0YBxoM7AaO32QLwQ6uG+Ntlp24s9xNDkB0YeYr cwT50E+mSPDvZakgYgSUh7vN/k1UWqTa6qmY0902NV5GAUu6cMG+N2dFnS2qK2Ll PS+5RD5huAKEAC1LR2qtfHip7ZqsJHyDoxaDcFnHC4sBOcjcynjCfh3BxOrR449N EhiXNNbs5RvRL5y/Si8wLMwvFXixydlBvHUL45cQe+p7FObA3Gf1EFssEk9Su9aY lbHdgSJr08oImuayt0EFvn6RQj7tvULybuGoelgwJXCFLjZdJHH//NoUEZFP2e8H GL5rasRitRCe/sulkVi1JBChYVDDNEMsYMQz03UFyhni+mWY9H53CnSb2PFxEF8/ LhD/wB6ozv9EStIyMv9U8lF2+EYZ8m0bKaRb5cuiafoWIfpgJpbHUlp3YLT3FwVH qGXE1PVGPodpwERRsncn ÌdH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --tArtifyz9D3PkaxN--help
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