Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2024 16:46:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Roger Marquis <marquis@roble.com> To: Chris <bsd-lists@bsdforge.com> Cc: Lexi Winter <lexi@le-fay.org>, pkgbase@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mailwrapper Message-ID: <0969668s-7220-nr1p-803r-8po8s57rr28p@mx.roble.com> In-Reply-To: <2dadf7ac48cb96fc3d503fcf45ca8fd0@bsdforge.com> References: <Zh2AyxODwlAE9hT1@ilythia.eden.le-fay.org> <op18onoo-42r2-74s6-9o63-10712r7qr35r@mx.roble.com> <2dadf7ac48cb96fc3d503fcf45ca8fd0@bsdforge.com>
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Don't know about other MTAs but the most common, Postfix, doesn't need
mailwrapper any more than does Sendmail.
Roger
> On 2024-04-15 14:08, Roger Marquis wrote:
>>> i am working on a patch for mailwrapper, which i'd like to move from
>>> FreeBSD-utilities to its own package.
>>
> ..
>>
>> Please don't, however, link anything to sendmail. Even it's author says
>> sendmail should be deprecated. Despite the many hours some of us have
>> put into sendmail.cf customizations this software is long past its
>> effective deprecation date.
> Please. Can we not turn this into a MTA v. MTA discussion?
> Mailwrapper should handle all the MTAs supported by FreeBSD. Shouldn't
> it? That's what it's used for. Right? :)
>
> --Chris
>>
>> Roger Marquis
>>
>>
>>> however i'm a little stymied by usr.sbin/mailwrapper/Makefile[0], which
>>> seems to do a few fairly odd things for the benefit of src users, such as
>>> linking mailwrapper to either dma or sendmail if mailwrapper itself isn't
>>> built.
>>>
>>> i'd like to significantly simplify the logic here so that if mailwrapper
>>> is
>>> enabled (${MK_MAILWRAPPER} == yes), it's always installed in the usual
>>> place, and doesn't pretend to be dma or sendmail, and there is no special
>>> handling depending on the value of ${MK_SENDMAIL} and ${MK_DMAGENT}.
>>>
>>> this might require some changes to either sendmail or dma (which of course
>>> i'd test before submitting anything), but in principle, does this sound
>>> like a reasonable idea?
>>>
>>> i am concious that many/most people don't use pkgbase yet and we shouldn't
>>> break things for them, but this seems like an ideal to time to clean up
>>> some of this legacy stuff.
>>>
>>> [0] https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/tree/usr.sbin/mailwrapper/Makefile
>>>
>
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