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Date:      Mon, 31 May 2010 13:39:50 +0200
From:      Roman Divacky <rdivacky@freebsd.org>
To:        Kostik Belousov <kostikbel@gmail.com>
Cc:        current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: [TESTING]: ClangBSD branch needs testing before the import to HEAD
Message-ID:  <20100531113950.GA44552@freebsd.org>
In-Reply-To: <20100531104631.GT83316@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua>
References:  <20100529130240.GA99732@freebsd.org> <20100530135859.GI83316@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua> <508DA8CE-749A-46B4-AF0B-392DB08CBBCD@samsco.org> <20100531095617.GR83316@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua> <20100531102452.GA33192@freebsd.org> <20100531104631.GT83316@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua>

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> > people are already experimenting with clang installed from ports,
> > with gcc4.{3,4,5} from ports etc. by not importing clang we can
> > maybe delay this a little but it's coming anyway.
> I am pretty much fine and happy with people experimenting with clang
> or any other compilers from ports, custom built, whatever. This is very
> different from importing some compiler into base. See below about "signal=
".
=20
what I wanted to say is that we can get problem reports from people using
other compilers than our stock gcc even today.

> > > Rather, I would consider the changes to ease the use of any external
> > > compiler, from ports or whatever, bent into shape and kept up to date
> > > with system progress very important, much less controversial and more
> > > useful. Then, addicts of any kool-aid-compiler can drink their potion
> > > without starting undesired relations. Unfortunately, this is not what
> > > happen.
> >=20
> > this is orthogonal to this. we as a project aim for delivering complete
> > operating system and we just need a system compiler. gcc4.2.1 just
> > cant serve us anymore, we need to do something now.
> Please describe why gcc in base cannot serve us anymore while served up
> to the minute I got your message.

that was summarized in a beautiful way by Scott Long :)

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