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Date:      Thu, 7 Oct 2021 17:07:52 +0200
From:      Tomasz CEDRO <tomek@cedro.info>
To:        Dave Cottlehuber <dch@skunkwerks.at>
Cc:        freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Mic does not work with Zoom on Chromium 92.0.4515.159.
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On Thu, Oct 7, 2021 at 4:28 PM Dave Cottlehuber wrote:
> (..)
> funny, I find pulse audio infinitely frustrating.
> (..)
> your sndio tips help on my setup, now I can do audio confs in chromium,
> with appropriate x11 screen sharing [1]:
> (..)
> I do notice that lossless music (e.g. flac or similar) isn't sounding as crisp, though, compared to my mojo chord USB-DAC. But I can live with this for meetings.
>
> It would be nicer when this upstream firefox bug finally gets merged, and sharing a single monitor becomes possible:

The worst part is most commercial web conferences forces users to use
Chrome, while Chromium is only castrated version of that. Not all
video conferencing work in Firefox. This is why I find JITSI Meet best
solution, it is also Open-Source. I stoppped using Chrome/Chromium
several years ago when each my request and search was sent to Google
even before DNS request.

In Firefox I have FULL list of my devices, I can switch microphone on
the fly during the conference. I have PulseAudio backend and I can
also switch the sound ouput on the fly.

It was possible in Chromium not that long ago, probably thanks to PA
backend. Now I have to play with terminal, environment variables, and
restart browser between each change. How is that better?

The purpose of web video conferencing is quick meeting with focus on
the subject of the meeting. Each time some people even using windows
have some sound and microphone problems. Its like computers and
internets showed up 2 weeks ago. Unbelievable.

Also I noticed recent change between oss/sndio and PulseAudio - one
card is 3 in pa while 4 in oss/sndio. That brings even more confusion.
So my configuration created for sndio on meeting last month is now
obsolete. This will touch you too one day.

So many choices. What a wonderful world.

-- 
CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info



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