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Date:      Tue, 23 Jun 1998 13:59:07 -0400
From:      Lanny Baron <purebeef@shaw.wave.ca>
To:        Malartre <malartre@aei.ca>, "freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG" <freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: Lists, newbies & support
Message-ID:  <358FECEA.B579208C@shaw.wave.ca>
References:  <Pine.BSF.3.95q.980622193410.20196H-100000@outpost.col.auracom.com> <358F01AB.1BED3257@aei.ca>

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Malartre wrote:

> arthur wrote:
> >
>   It will continue to be a "techie" OS that is slow
> > > growing and will probably never really catch on.  I am beginning to think
> > > that this is exactly what most of the "elders" at FreeBSD really want.  They
> > > are probably already overworked and simply don't have a lot of time for
> > > truly newbie questions.
> > >
> >

            Hi,

        I have used FreeBSD since the 1.1.5 version. The following only applies to
me.  As much as I really Love FreeBSD, it is a very techie OS.  I have had a LOT of
help from people such as Jordan Hubbard and Greg Lehey. The biggest problem that I
face is a lack of understanding of the basics. The other big problem is that once
the system is started, I want to do 50 things at once. That for sure is no help in
learning the intricacies of FreeBSD.

        As far as help is concerned. It is assumed that any user to FreeBSD will
take the time to read the appropriate MAN page for his/her problem. Sometimes I
find that the man page is very technical in nature and implies you know quite a bit
already. I am NOT knocking our MAN pages. I have been told on some IRC channels
that our (FreeBSD's) MAN pages are excellent compared to some other variant
UNIX os's.

    And on the topic of help, there is a channel on the efnet (IRC) called #freebsd
which I regularly frequent (and frequently get banned). I have received excellent
help from some of the users there. I must mention Genesys, as he telneted to my pc
and fixed a few things. Now I would like to see Microsoft do that. As we all know
that is not going to happen. Albeit #freebsd is not the official help center for
FreeBSD users. But it is a great place to learn a few things.

    The other problem is that of the case of the person who has ants in his pants
and can't sit and learn well. That case is mine. Its called attention deficit
disorder.

    Nonetheless, FreeBSD will grow when it can do a larger marketing concept. But
then that costs big bucks....anyone want to pitch in?

    FreeBSD is a marvelous creation. It causes one to actually use the greatest
gift we all have.....our brain (although some like mine are a little dysfunctional)

Cheers...
Lanny


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