Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2007 00:15:25 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte <wb@freebie.xs4all.nl> To: Nikolas Britton <nikolas.britton@gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, ed@fxq.nl, "M. Warner Losh" <imp@bsdimp.com> Subject: Re: Do we need this junk? Message-ID: <20070406221525.GB1631@freebie.xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <ef10de9a0704061448q5198995dv4d38bd57aca897f8@mail.gmail.com> References: <20070406153500.GE6950@hoeg.nl> <46166A5E.3090009@samsco.org> <ef10de9a0704061136s2dc35c06w431d6d3f8c05dc1@mail.gmail.com> <20070406.151901.-1844003065.imp@bsdimp.com> <ef10de9a0704061448q5198995dv4d38bd57aca897f8@mail.gmail.com>
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On Fri, Apr 06, 2007 at 04:48:50PM -0500, Nikolas Britton wrote.. > On 4/6/07, M. Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> wrote: > >In message: <ef10de9a0704061136s2dc35c06w431d6d3f8c05dc1@mail.gmail.com> > > "Nikolas Britton" <nikolas.britton@gmail.com> writes: > >: Where is this coming from? I'm trying to debate some of the issues > >: with FreeBSD and the only thing you've added to this thread is fuck > >: off? Why? > > > >Because you have used language that is somewhat absolute and have not > >done a market research on who actually uses FreeBSD. You have also > >shown a fundamental lack of understanding of how modern machines are > >put together as well, since you think all things ISA are obsolete > >(they are not). > > > >As others have noted, there's a very large and vibrant embedded > >FreeBSD community. This community makes real and meaningful > >contributions to FreeBSD. Over the years, I've made thousands of > >commits to the tree, funded in large part by the embedded companies > >that I have worked for, including CardBus, PC Card, SD/MMC, > >infrasturcutre changes, etc. > > > >Frankly, we'd rather tell a new, upstart to get bent than to tell > >actual users and supports of FreeBSD to get bent by removing the > >offending items from the tree. It really is a no-brainer. > > > > New upstart? I have not been using FreeBSD for as long as you but I'm > definitely not new here, I've been using and hacking on FreeBSD for > over 5 years now and my professional experience with almost every > operating system under the sun goes back much much farther. If the > project leadership doesn't give a shit about the users then I guess I > don't give a shit about project. Good bye. I'm sure Sun would mind new > users. Happy trails. Please do not return. -- Wilko Bulte wilko@FreeBSD.org
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