Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2017 18:23:42 -0800 From: "Chris H" <bsd-lists@BSDforge.com> To: "Benno Rice" <benno@FreeBSD.org> Cc: <freebsd-arch@freebsd.org>, <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: The future of fortune(6) Message-ID: <e5f7b57242353030618d34bc1ad445a9@udns.ultimatedns.net> In-Reply-To: <66D39828-ADBA-4973-BEB8-B2F6657E9996@FreeBSD.org>
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On Wed, 22 Nov 2017 08:29:46 -0800 "Benno Rice" <benno@FreeBSD.org> said > Hello, all! > > With the removal of the fortune datfiles I think it’s time to have a > discussion about fortune(6). > > fortune now defaults to using a fortune file that no longer exists: > > $ fortune > No fortunes found in > /usr/share/games/fortune:/usr/local/share/games/fortune. > > fortune is still used in the default .login/.profile to show entries from the > still existing freebsd-tips: > > $ grep fortune /usr/share/skel/* > /usr/share/skel/dot.login:if ( -x /usr/bin/fortune ) /usr/bin/fortune > freebsd-tips > /usr/share/skel/dot.profile:if [ -x /usr/bin/fortune ] ; then > /usr/bin/fortune freebsd-tips ; fi > $ fortune freebsd-tips > If you need a reminder to leave your terminal, type "leave +hhmm" where > "hhmm" represents in how many hours and minutes you need to leave. > -- Dru <genesis@istar.ca> > > fortune also still has flags for showing offensive entries and the like. > > I would like people’s opinion on which of the following two paths we should > take: > > 1) Complete removal of fortune and freebsd-tips, remove its usage from the > default .login/.profile files. > > 2) Reworking fortune(6) to remove the offensive fortune flag and make > freebsd-tips the default, possibly by symlinking it as > /usr/share/games/fortune/fortunes. > > Personally I lean towards the first option. HooWee! Here we go again... :) IMHO There is no reason to have removed the original fortune(6). Yes. There *were* some (potentially) offensive fortunes. *But* you had to make a conscious decision to 1) turn that option on. 2) accepting the knowledge that they *may* be offensive. Why was there *ever* an issue?! I pick up a hammer, and place my hand on the kitchen counter. I then raise the hammer. Taking careful aim, to ensure that when I bring the hammer down swiftly. It will strike my hand. I've done so *knowing* the outcome. See any similarities? If it's to (hopefully) return, and given the proposed option(s). I'd like to suggest that fortune be re-instated, using FreeBSD tips as the default. *But* with the option to re-instate the "traditional/classic" fortune(s). Doesn't that make for a win-win situation? :) Thanks for listening. :) --Chris > > Thanks, > Benno. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"help
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