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Date:      Mon, 28 Dec 1998 12:25:31 +1030
From:      Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
To:        "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@zippy.cdrom.com>
Cc:        FreeBSD current users <FreeBSD-current@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: Thanks, Core Team
Message-ID:  <19981228122531.C12346@freebie.lemis.com>
In-Reply-To: <12439.914809537@zippy.cdrom.com>; from Jordan K. Hubbard on Sun, Dec 27, 1998 at 05:45:37PM -0800
References:  <19981228112851.Y12346@freebie.lemis.com> <12439.914809537@zippy.cdrom.com>

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On Sunday, 27 December 1998 at 17:45:37 -0800, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:
>> 1.  LKMs are gone.
>> 2.  This was decided by the core team.
>> 3.  Nobody else was informed.
>
> Actually, while some of the recent events came as much as a surprise
> to core as anyone else, the transition from LKMs to KLD modules is not
> and should not come as a surprise to anyone.  We've been talking about
> it for ages now in -current 

Sure, but that's not what I'm talking about.  I've been gathering a
lot of information about KLDs, and I've been meaning to move some
time.  But until this morning there was nothing to indicate that LKMs
were going away in a hurry.  It's interesting that recent events
surprised you too, though.

> and the only way you could possibly fail to be informed about this
> transition would be if you had simply deleted every mail received
> from -current for at least the last 3 months.

This would be the same way that you could possibly fail to notice that
I took a lively part in the discussions.  That's not the point.  Do
*you* know how to get kld symbols into the kernel debugger?  Peter
gave me a pointer, but as they say, ``some assembly needed''.

Greg
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