Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2015 17:39:46 +0300 From: Andrey Chernov <ache@freebsd.org> To: John Marino <mfl-commissioner@marino.st>, marino@freebsd.org, Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@freebsd.org> Cc: NGie Cooper <yaneurabeya@gmail.com>, Craig Rodrigues <rodrigc@FreeBSD.org>, freebsd-current Current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>, "freebsd-testing@freebsd.org" <testing@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Need help fixing failing locale tests Message-ID: <56489932.1080504@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <56488E8C.9080901@marino.st> References: <CAG=rPVc1t2q_MR99iyWYfy4xrCy==KA1yT=EAaa2twiHoC=zcA@mail.gmail.com> <CAG=rPVfK6ZyWJhtuBihmj%2BWNp94auCJ3kDqoQm-ygXNpiLeatA@mail.gmail.com> <69242BD8-9010-47F0-9706-BE206376ECEA@gmail.com> <289892B6-EACE-4BDA-B838-D3DC750319DE@gmail.com> <56482FA9.2010803@marino.st> <56487973.5070803@freebsd.org> <20151115124656.GB93991@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <564880FA.5000009@freebsd.org> <564882A3.7060109@marino.st> <5648842E.3050203@freebsd.org> <5648853F.2050901@marino.st> <56488A76.1090502@freebsd.org> <56488E8C.9080901@marino.st>
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On 15.11.2015 16:54, John Marino wrote: > We are talking about people that install FreeBSD 11 as a release. If > it's an upgrade, it's documented in UPDATING (it will be) and anybody on > -CURRENT is taking responsibility for knowing what they are doing. *IF* > this is an obstacle, it's either trivial or that user shouldn't be using > -CURRENT to begin with. As I already say, I don't want to insist on any particular point of view in such area as human behavior. I just say that it is POLA violation (even while it is upgrade) and we can let users decide by themselves, what it best for them (without me at least). >> I tell about is not different text document encoding, but program >> failure due to inability to set his 8859-1 locale. > > Please provide an example of such a program (in ports). See gettext-0.19.6/gettext-tools/configure, part started with # Test for the usual locale name. I don't have time to dig more such code now, but I remember I saw more for sure. >> In any case it is related to the user behavior an various views on it. >> They can be different and I see no point to insist on my particular view >> at all. But... Programs configure soft-fails shows real danger here. > > and the impact of this is ... ? Various. It depends on for what reason program sense locale. -- http://ache.vniz.net/
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