Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2019 16:09:52 -0700 From: Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com> To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org, Robert Simmons <rsimmons0@gmail.com>, "Aaron C. de Bruyn" <aaron@heyaaron.com> Cc: Luke Crooks <luke@solentwholesale.com> Subject: Re: Old Stuff Message-ID: <B6616B7D-84A6-4E3E-9254-B773100EA235@cschubert.com> In-Reply-To: <CA%2BQLa9DK9UOC1uSrLQEn4-QpX4t11hJMYCCCn6g4Jb1ogUaBXg@mail.gmail.com> References: <CA%2BQLa9DnEmC0fK81rHGCsuextpN%2BUjMbraUFKBz0DYeDbz%2BTjg@mail.gmail.com> <CAC0r6X-8YpghSCcLAMKtYy=ZTGHZbvMhX7f1Gk5ZQiE92QbEVQ@mail.gmail.com> <CA%2BQLa9BbR9iox5UJr99fZqv=eFm4H6jePDUeKBQ0yq8LhYBMKA@mail.gmail.com> <CAEE%2BrGqLhp2Khe_fFhwmTtUxMkF%2BmTacdbcg_P12HZgSpfdGqw@mail.gmail.com> <CA%2BQLa9DK9UOC1uSrLQEn4-QpX4t11hJMYCCCn6g4Jb1ogUaBXg@mail.gmail.com>
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On July 24, 2019 12:09:12 PM PDT, Robert Simmons <rsimmons0@gmail=2Ecom> wr= ote: >Yes, to reduce the code base complexity so that resources can be >focused on >a smaller code base=2E > >On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 3:06 PM Aaron C=2E de Bruyn <aaron@heyaaron=2Ecom= > >wrote: > >> Ubuntu made the decision, then rolled it back (partially) due to >community >> outcry=2E (https://itsfoss=2Ecom/ubuntu-19-10-drops-32-bit-support/) >> If your reason for wanting to drop support is "Ubuntu is doing it", >my >> response would be "cool story bro"=2E >> Can you state what you are trying to accomplish by dropping support >so the >> merits can be debated? >> >> -A >> >> On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 11:47 AM Robert Simmons <rsimmons0@gmail=2Ecom> >> wrote: >> >>> I am and am not=2E Ubuntu has made this choice recently=2E I doubt I a= m >alone >>> in my thinking=2E I fully expected instant pushback on both >suggestions=2E >>> >>> On Wed, Jul 24, 2019, 13:29 Luke Crooks <luke@solentwholesale=2Ecom> >wrote: >>> >>> > Clearly you underestimate the technical debt for both hardware and >>> > software technologies, still very much in use today=2E >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Luke Crooks >>> > Solent Wholesale Carpets >>> > >>> > On Wed, 24 Jul 2019, 17:58 Robert Simmons, <rsimmons0@gmail=2Ecom> >wrote: >>> > >>> >> I wonder if FreeBSD should drop support for 32bit? Clean out and >remove >>> >> all >>> >> of it=2E It should make the code base easier to maintain, cleaner, >and >>> >> safer=2E >>> >> >>> >> In this same vein, let's deprecate and remove things like telnet >and >>> ftp=2E >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> freebsd-security@freebsd=2Eorg mailing list >>> >> https://lists=2Efreebsd=2Eorg/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-security >>> >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >>> >> freebsd-security-unsubscribe@freebsd=2Eorg" >>> >> >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-security@freebsd=2Eorg mailing list >>> https://lists=2Efreebsd=2Eorg/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-security >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >>> freebsd-security-unsubscribe@freebsd=2Eorg" >>> >> >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-security@freebsd=2Eorg mailing list >https://lists=2Efreebsd=2Eorg/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-security >To unsubscribe, send any mail to >"freebsd-security-unsubscribe@freebsd=2Eorg" This reminds me of a discussion I had with a manager at a company I develo= ped IBM mainframe software at=2E His point was this exactly, in order to re= duce expenses through the reduction of staff=2E Given the "staff" on the Fr= eeBSD project are all volunteers, the vast majority of which work on projec= ts/code of our choosing, I don't see your point=2E --=20 Pardon the typos and autocorrect, small keyboard in use=2E Cheers, Cy Schubert <Cy=2ESchubert@cschubert=2Ecom> FreeBSD UNIX: <cy@FreeBSD=2Eorg> Web: http://www=2EFreeBSD=2Eorg The need of the many outweighs the greed of the few=2E
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