Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:42:37 +0100 From: Bernd Walter <ticso@cicely8.cicely.de> To: Alexey Zelkin <phantom@FreeBSD.org.ua> Cc: John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org>, "Thyer, Matthew" <Matthew.Thyer@dsto.defence.gov.au>, "Wilkinson, Alex" <Alex.Wilkinson@dsto.defence.gov.au>, gallatin@cs.duke.edu, fclift@verio.net, alpha@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP, floppy installs desupported for 5.0 (fwd) Message-ID: <20021106184236.GD46686@cicely8.cicely.de> In-Reply-To: <20021106173822.A6295@phantom.cris.net> References: <108E7D907871D6118B5000306E0189F85759A9@ednex504.dsto.defence.gov.au> <XFMail.20021106094832.jhb@FreeBSD.org> <20021106173822.A6295@phantom.cris.net>
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On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 05:38:22PM +0200, Alexey Zelkin wrote: > On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 09:48:32AM -0500, John Baldwin wrote: > > On 05-Nov-2002 Thyer, Matthew wrote: > > > On 06-Nov-2002 Baldwin, John wrote: > > >> This is what we do already. Even i386 now uses 3 floppies to install. The problem is > > >> that a really, really stripped down 5.0 kernel still doesn't fit onto kern.flp with the > > >> loader. > > > > > > Last I checked, the GENERIC kernel still had many network drivers. > > > > > > Wouldn't it be possible to put all of those modules on another floppy ? > > > > > > Dont worry about implementing interactive module loading for now.... we could just load > > > them all from the additional floppy under control of the loader. > > > > *sigh* THIS IS WHAT WE DO ALREADY. PLEASE LOOK AT WHAT WE DO NOW. > > > > (getting tired of saying the same thing over and over and over) > > Sorry, for intruding to your discussion guys, but IIRC out loader has > functionality to load one module (kernel.ko for example :) from few > flopies. At least it worked well for i386 and quite may work -alpha too. > > Did you tried to split kernel into two chunks and load it from two > flopies instead of striping kernel size over years ? :-) I'm personaly quite happy with the descision - with removing floppy support LCA support can get back into 5.0 GENERIC. This is an old discussion reintroduced everytime the kernel does not fit anymore - now there is nothing left to remove. This clearly shows that noone had enough interest to do the coding. I believe most alpha machines out there just have a cd drive to install. If you provide a working patch to what you are proposing there is no reason not to implement it. -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message
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