Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2025 08:00:31 +0700 From: cyric@mm.st To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PKGBASE Removes FreeBSD Base System Feature Message-ID: <d90ebae1-dd3c-4276-9045-dc06a8897431@mm.st> In-Reply-To: <CAFYkXjmaYKq1SOvFBNN0cW0Kras0RZkDmCEG%2B0Ewm6YG1_GDFw@mail.gmail.com> References: <gblzvammhkzqxmwduyap@vpbk> <CAFYkXjmaYKq1SOvFBNN0cW0Kras0RZkDmCEG%2B0Ewm6YG1_GDFw@mail.gmail.com>
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Tomek CEDRO wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 30, 2025, 02:28 vermaden <vermaden@interia.pl > <mailto:vermaden@interia.pl>> wrote: > > Hi, > > after short discussion here: > - https://github.com/freebsd/pkg/issues/2485 <https://github.com/ > freebsd/pkg/issues/2485> > > I got REALLY concerned. > > One of THE features and selling points of a FreeBSD UNIX system is > the 'untouchable' Base System. > > Without PKGBASE all the features are preserved. > > But when You convert to PKGBASE its ... GONE! > > Consider this command: > > # pkg delete -af > > What it does? > > It removes all third party packages on 'classic' FreeBSD system > without touching the FreeBSD Base System. > > What the same "pkg delete -af" command does on a PKGBASE FreeBSD system? > > It kills/destroys almost all of the FreeBSD Base System and leaves > only two PKGBASE packages called: > > - FreeBSD-clibs > - FreeBSD-runtime > > All the rest of Base System is GONE. Destroyed. > > You do not even have vi(1) editor ad /rescue is separate not > protected FreeBSD-rescue package and its also removed. > > WTF?! > > POLA is the principle that made FreeBSD such predictable system. > Where is the POLA now? > > Why the same *pkg delete -af* command on 'classic' FreeBSD system > without PKGBASE only removes all third party packages and the same > *pkg delete -af* literally destroys most of the FreeBSD PKGBASE Base > System? > > Its crazy ... > > Regards, > vermaden > > > yup :-( Too much drama here, quoting emaste: "Anyhow we do need to give more consideration to the base system / 3rd party packages, including for the upgrade path."home | help
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