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Date:      Sat, 28 May 2005 15:21:40 +0300
From:      Andy Fawcett <andy@athame.co.uk>
To:        freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Cc:        Mike Jakubik <mikej@rogers.com>, Matthias Buelow <mkb@incubus.de>
Subject:   Re: Lifetime of FreeBSD branches
Message-ID:  <200505281521.43849.andy@athame.co.uk>
In-Reply-To: <42978172.6060200@incubus.de>
References:  <3248.172.16.0.199.1116876092.squirrel@172.16.0.1> <4297316B.3060801@samsco.org> <42978172.6060200@incubus.de>

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On Friday 27 May 2005 23:22, Matthias Buelow wrote:
> Scott Long wrote:
> > Yeah, and what I'm trying to do is smooth the bumps for the long
> > term. The 4.x->5.x transition was simply a gigantic mess for users,
> > and it was largely a function of it being 4+ years in the making.
>
> <rant>It still _is_ a gigantic mess.  My hosted 5.3-stable server
> just crapped itself for the second time this year, for no apparent
> reason.  I suggest  reestablishing 4.x as the "production" tree and
> continuing to maintain it for a while, including making releases, and
> regressing 5.x to what it is and probably will be for quite a while:
> "experimental".</rant>

And to counter your rant, I've been using 5.x since 5.0-DP1 on a range 
of hardware (mostly i386 in quite different setups, and more recently 
amd64 too) with virtually no problems.

On the other hand, 4.x (I think it was 4.9, but I really cannot remember 
for sure) crapped all over one box so hard I refuse to ever use it 
again.

A.

-- 
Andy Fawcett                                     | andy@athame.co.uk
                                                 | tap@kde.org
"In an open world without walls and fences,      | tap@lspace.org
  we wouldn't need Windows and Gates."  -- anon  | tap@fruitsalad.org



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