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Date:      Mon, 13 Jun 2016 06:03:27 -0700
From:      Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@komquats.com>
To:        Jordan Hubbard <jkh@mail.turbofuzz.com>
Cc:        Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@komquats.com>, Pedro Giffuni <pfg@FreeBSD.org>, FreeBSD-arch list <freebsd-arch@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Illumos/OpenSolaris SMF to FreeBSD
Message-ID:  <201606131303.u5DD3RGW091675@slippy.cwsent.com>
In-Reply-To: Message from Jordan Hubbard <jkh@mail.turbofuzz.com> of "Sat, 11 Jun 2016 14:49:02 -0700." <5F7A1097-1B4F-4FA1-BC21-1648E9E5751A@mail.turbofuzz.com>

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In message <5F7A1097-1B4F-4FA1-BC21-1648E9E5751A@mail.turbofuzz.com>, 
Jordan Hu
bbard writes:
> 
> 
> > On Jun 11, 2016, at 2:15 PM, Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@komquats.com> wrote:
> > 
> > Having said all that, I don't think that Apple's launchd was meant for 
> > servers or the enterprise, not to mention they closed-sourced it. We 
> > probably have to write our own.
> 
> Neither of those things are entirely true, however.
> 
> 1. launchd is agnostic as to workload - there’s nothing particularly “consumer-
> centric” about its actual design and it works perfectly well in OS X Server, t
> hough of course terms like “Server” and “Enterprise” are also broad enough that y
> ou can find both pro and con cases to support either argument so I don’t know 
> that it even makes sense to go there.
> 
> 2. While it is true that the most recent versions of launchd (in Mavericks / 
> Yosemite) have not yet been released, you can start with earlier versions and
>  some might even argue that it makes more sense to do so, as launchd has beco
> me somewhat more Apple-centric over time.  We had no problems porting the ear
> lier versions of it to NextBSD, however, and it’s running there just fine.  It
>  also has an Apache license, just to circle back to the license question.
> 
> There are other reasons that one may or may not wish to use launchd as a serv
> ice management framework, and I’m certainly not going to resurrect the old arg
> uments with Mark H. over that (been there, done that, no point in reprising t
> hem), but neither of those two would make the top-ten list.


I attended, via youtube live stream, Mark Heily's talk. Among others, 
raised the above issues.

I too do not want to resurrect old arguments either.


-- 
Cheers,
Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com>
FreeBSD UNIX:  <cy@FreeBSD.org>   Web:  http://www.FreeBSD.org

	The need of the many outweighs the greed of the few.





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