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Date:      Wed, 22 Apr 1998 21:16:09 -0400
From:      Malartre <malartre@aei.ca>
To:        Sue Blake <sue@welearn.com.au>, freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: #freebsd-newbies
Message-ID:  <353E9659.42C83A7A@aei.ca>
References:  <353BB623.59353921@aei.ca> <Pine.BSF.3.96.980420103220.1190A-100000@avalon.ns.rogers.wave.ca> <19980421183744.56403@welearn.com.au> <353D0BF9.E6B2193@aei.ca> <19980422102451.37232@welearn.com.au> <353D4FE8.CB060112@aei.ca> <19980422123732.26573@welearn.com.au> <353D5BAD.69CABB78@aei.ca> <19980422130643.31796@welearn.com.au>

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Sue Blake wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 21, 1998 at 10:53:33PM -0400, Malartre wrote:
> > Sue Blake wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, Apr 21, 1998 at 10:03:20PM -0400, Malartre wrote:
> > >
> > > > *brain-dead* newbies as in the mail on hackers@freebsd.org
> > >
> > > Get used to it, until we can *demonstrate* that they are wrong
> > > (or right, hehe)
> > >
> > > > Sue, your a very logic person :-)
> > >
> > > I've been reading man pages too long :-)
> > >
> > > > I will answer your question (if i find the mail, I will try)
> > > > Well, a channel need to start somewhere.
> > >
> > > There might be more people happy about us being on irc.bsdnet.org than
> > > you think. It all depends on how we handle it.
> > >
> > > Their main concerns seem to be:
> > > 1. Newbies might ask questions in channels where people don't want
> > >    to answer questions. This feeling is very strong! We would have
> > >    to make sure that didn't happen. If we can help to keep newbies
> > >    out of the other channels by being there, they would be pleased.
> > > 2. Newbies will tell each other the wrong advice, and give FreeBSD
> > >    a bad name. Nobody is available to help newbies, and if a newbie
> > >    can't get an answer there is no other channel to send them to.
> > >
> > > Some people say that there's a lot of brain-dead newbies on efnet already
> > > and we should go there, but I get the impression newbies are not treated
> > > very well on efnet. Does anyone have experience?
> > >
> > > If we take up residence on irc.bsdnet.org and after that newbies go to
> > > the wrong channel asking for help, we will be called names much worse
> > > than "brain-dead". We could prove them wrong. It could be a very good
> > > place or very bad, depending on how we do it. Do you think you could
> > > convince other newbies to stay in their channel? Would they want to?
> > > What are you offering them?
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >         -*Sue*-
> > >
> > > find / -name "*.conf" |more
> > >
> >
> >  Until the channel is not started *and* a little bit supported by other
> > newbies, I cannot offer anything other than my own help.
> >
> > I am not stupid, I try to give some respect on other mailling list where
> > there is discution about newbies.
> > So I dont care about *brain-dead*.  On hackers@freebsd.org , they are
> > frustrated of win95...  And they dont do anything to help.
> > I try my best to do that channel work.  And now there is people who want to
> > support it.
> >
> > Its a good Idea to put it on irc.freebsd.org.  And in long-term, it should be
> > a good idea to put that server in the ircII port...
> >
> > what other newbies have to say?
>
> Psst! Why don't you ask them (not just me)
>
> Your keyboard must be the same brand as mine, the kind with buttons
> that change position :-)
>
> --
>
> Regards,
>         -*Sue*-
>
> find / -name "*.conf" |more

DOH!

Why that apens only to me! hehe
The CC have not worked.
sorry!

Malartre :-)


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