Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 13:59:47 +0300 From: Achilleas Mantzios <achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com> To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: this is probably a little touchy to ask... Message-ID: <201009101359.47881.achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com> In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinmfMdYUpNGKCCAX1cE7pZJDFC07BoRsQ9XxhsA@mail.gmail.com> References: <AANLkTi=7sTm12NUdAeRrX1ZUsSveS9k7dk=hc%2BgWV9jK@mail.gmail.com> <86pqwmlhdu.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <AANLkTinmfMdYUpNGKCCAX1cE7pZJDFC07BoRsQ9XxhsA@mail.gmail.com>
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For anyone having invested in java in the browser (aka applets) in the last 10 years, this thing will definitely come back and bite us. Anyway, Whats the status of the java plugin in firefox 3.6 in the linux world? You can always run a linux inside FreeBSD's virtualbox. (i am doing it right now and it rocks!!!) Στις Friday 10 September 2010 13:38:00 ο/η Jules Gilbert έγραψε: > Look, I'm just a user. I'm not a Java developer, not a language > developer, not a run-time specialist. But folks, we got problems! I > say this because it's becoming really hard to make Java run on a > browser. > > I didn't even know that Google and Oracle weren't getting along, I > really am out of date. (All I do is code.) > > But here's the thing: almost no one can make a java enabled browser, > and lot's of us need exactly that, java running on our browsers. So > obviously this means that something is seriously wrong -- and worse, > when I asked "how", no one came back and said "Oh, you obviously > didn't install such-and-such a patch, do that and everything will > work." No, and worse, the responses are all about possible solutions > in the distant not-known-when-and-only-maybe future. > > I do think we should all get behind this Beat fellow, he's > beat@freebsd.org, his work seems closest to bringing up a java-enabled > browser, with zero or at least few problems. > > --jg > > > On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Randal L. Schwartz > <merlyn@stonehenge.com> wrote: > >>>>>> "Jules" == Jules Gilbert <jules.stocks@gmail.com> writes: > > > > Jules> Now an opinion. If Oracle isn't going to help us, we should look > > Jules> around for an alternative, even inventing something else, something > > Jules> that isn't Sun/Oracle/Java. > > > > You mean something that looks like Java but isn't Java? > > > > That's precisely what the Oracle v. Google suit is about. Dangerous > > road to go down at this point. > > > > Or do you mean something that isn't even Java, but has a lot of > > Java-like features? > > > > I think you're describing "everything else already available in > > production". Plenty of choices. > > > > -- > > Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 > > <merlyn@stonehenge.com> <URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/>; > > Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. > > See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion > > > > > -- Achilleas Mantzioshelp
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