Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2019 13:35:18 -0700 From: Ian Lepore <ian@freebsd.org> To: cem@freebsd.org, svn-src-head@freebsd.org Cc: src-committers <src-committers@freebsd.org>, svn-src-all@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r343440 - head/bin/sh Message-ID: <03987a1c3ad0c362d50dcefdfd653dec033d14ed.camel@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <CAG6CVpU2FYOXQpZ%2B_R-2TMUSozPhCs0wxWLeSs31gxi7JJ3GCg@mail.gmail.com> References: <201901251709.x0PH9Rc4094379@repo.freebsd.org> <CAG6CVpU2FYOXQpZ%2B_R-2TMUSozPhCs0wxWLeSs31gxi7JJ3GCg@mail.gmail.com>
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On Sat, 2019-01-26 at 11:11 -0800, Conrad Meyer wrote: > I didn't really feel the need to weigh in on this bikeshed thread > previously, but apparently some folks are calling for a revert. Why? > I don't really understand how this meets the high bar for summary > revert, even if you disagree with the change made (and disagreement > is > fine, of course). > > So I'll raise my hand for "leave it in" and encourage talking out > your > bikeshed. It would be persuasive to come up with a specific list of > complaints, ideally excluding ones that have been shown to be > baseless. So far there has been a lot of mudslinging and it's > difficult to sort out the preference complaints from the security > complaints from the (well-intentioned, but ultimately inaccurate) > fiction. I don't think a "heckler's veto" should be granted. > > If you don't use root/toor, that's fine! But I think that sort of > (heavily) discounts how much weight your opinion of root/toor > defaults > should be given. > > If you use Expect, great. You should be setting a specific PS1 > anyway > (both before and after this change). After all, this is just the > default. Users have been free to set a custom PS1 for root in > .profile since time began. > > Has anyone verified the claim that freebsd-update will actually > modify > a user's home directory contents, or was that just speculation? I > don't know one way or the other and I think it's still an open > question. > > Best regards, > Conrad > Wait a sec... something has been stable and working fine for 30 years, then it gets changed to reflect one man's personal preferences, and it's the people who object to that who have to jump through flaming hoops to justify themselves? Screw that. Don't bother to CC me in any replies, I'm out of this conversation. It's a pity the freebsd prject has turned into linux. -- ian > On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 9:09 AM Edward Tomasz Napierala > <trasz@freebsd.org> wrote: > > > > Author: trasz > > Date: Fri Jan 25 17:09:26 2019 > > New Revision: 343440 > > URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/343440 > > > > Log: > > Comment out the default sh(1) aliases for root, introduced in > > r343416. > > The rest of this stuff is still to be discussed, but I think at > > this > > point we have the agreement that the aliases should go. > > > > MFC after: 2 weeks > > Sponsored by: DARPA, AFRL > > > > Modified: > > head/bin/sh/dot.shrc > > > > Modified: head/bin/sh/dot.shrc > > =================================================================== > > =========== > > --- head/bin/sh/dot.shrc Fri Jan 25 17:08:28 > > 2019 (r343439) > > +++ head/bin/sh/dot.shrc Fri Jan 25 17:09:26 > > 2019 (r343440) > > @@ -18,13 +18,13 @@ > > # set -o vi > > > > > > -# some useful aliases > > -alias h='fc -l' > > -alias j=jobs > > -alias m="$PAGER" > > -alias ll='ls -laFo' > > -alias l='ls -l' > > -alias g='egrep -i' > > +# # some useful aliases > > +# alias h='fc -l' > > +# alias j=jobs > > +# alias m="$PAGER" > > +# alias ll='ls -laFo' > > +# alias l='ls -l' > > +# alias g='egrep -i' > > > > # # be paranoid > > # alias cp='cp -ip' > > > >
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