Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 20:59:57 +0200 From: Miguel Mendez <flynn@energyhq.es.eu.org> To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Java (was: Re: bsd daemon chick wallpaper??) Message-ID: <20030618205957.60223a73.flynn@energyhq.es.eu.org> In-Reply-To: <20030618180737.GA32363@rfc822.net> References: <3EF061D9.7000609@potentialtech.com> <200306181612.KAA21256@lariat.org> <20030618165119.GA31988@rfc822.net> <3EF0A086.6000103@potentialtech.com> <20030618173637.GB32151@rfc822.net> <3EF0A88A.6040002@potentialtech.com> <20030618180737.GA32363@rfc822.net>
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On Wed, 18 Jun 2003 13:07:37 -0500
Pete Ehlke <pde@rfc822.net> wrote:
> What's even more amazing is how quickly even the most carefully,
> tightly crafted java script (yes, script. java is *interpreted*,
> dammit) can eat up 384 Mb of RAM.
Hmm, have you ever heard of JIT compilers? The gcc guys also have the
gcj project, but I'm not up to date on its status.
> "An 11 Mb RSS and 10 second startup time just to say 'Hello world'.
> That's not too bad, really, is it?"
I know you're joking here, but java shines in the server side in cases
where cpu is hardly the bottleneck. Or do you write your business
middleware in C? As I got into the subject, java has gotten a bad image
partly thanks to abominations like Swing. Those who have played or
used those nifty java interfaces like the Volume Manager UI or
Forte for java will surely know what I'm talking about. Extremely slow
interfaces that love crashing. I'm not really a big java fan myself, but
it has its place, and it's not in the desktop IMHO.
Cheers,
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