Date: Tue, 19 May 2026 13:09:18 +0200 From: Daniel Lysfjord <lysfjord.daniel@smokepit.net> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unable to boot after update from within auto-admin Message-ID: <19cabdd0-d3f0-41a8-bdf2-f891a411ed70@smokepit.net> In-Reply-To: <agwWg8wN5wA4kHnc@apollonios.math.ethz.ch> References: <H1NGyZ4b9k7LzchPk_nYZo-aPIKfj9salcmZH3VUMeHS5FmH7icoIy1UvXCR5cEd4tc-MRG5mAL-19GzYDUg26GGtlRTlvli5oqMchdjz_8=@proton.me> <a674de1599b7618ce6a7fb1f806df96c@smokepit.net> <hu6VNttxK1rW0gYQx80gjmJh6rjTg_ZPi73extFEtM1qKn7mwXYFpCViXmwzLNHgzvuDbwRt0jhxpFvJVVydtwTuAYQ37sp47jiAJbLUUWM=@proton.me> <5f88b5f5e25c7fca7c5f3af2e74ab070@smokepit.net> <bMqPt6T-h2jSNbr3LzJIV1beY6OZGVb4xmJtEEK_OyRSsnKGLQCZjb-TkiR73ZCiP3mJNFRtHsKAUJrK1jSH3AkCnb7n6l3BulLCYsNBMzM=@proton.me> <74dfc07e-0433-425f-b1d4-c02254eb06ce@palaceofretention.ca> <oDhPKKaVHGzsq0f3uGohg5sJB0AHZFwi1CT8ViFSyc3w3gFBf8Yyo6jA_cYnmEADg6pIF8m6kmZtyABJaCF-F4VfhbNT62NK7opZYg3jL2A=@proton.me> <agsQ5PYywjYwkuy2@apollonios.math.ethz.ch> <JLD_1RlrMQuok3vqf0D6UAiE7qLqaOqao5m2QIrgVT007ctBoivMdZzW5R4nYm8NFBUCHcj0i-mQyGHKfGseqxKMZiol3hjqSqNlufAncNw=@proton.me> <43a6e48acea1ba3b8ae57d6bb2e8d945@smokepit.net> <agwWg8wN5wA4kHnc@apollonios.math.ethz.ch>
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On 2026-05-19 09:51, Mathias M. wrote: > On Mon, May 18, 2026 at 08:20:26PM +0200, Daniel Lysfjord wrote: >> On 2026-05-18 19:45, linuxblood wrote: >>> On Monday, May 18th, 2026 at 1:15 PM, Mathias M. <mma@darktemple.ch> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On Sun, May 10, 2026 at 03:29:31PM +0000, linuxblood wrote: >>>> >>>>> I can't be the only one out there using "desktop-installer" and then >>>>> receiving desktop notifications for updates being available via >>>>> "auto-admin." I guess there's not enough people using >>>>> "desktop-installer" noticing this and complaining to upstream about >>>>> it. >>>> >>>> You might very well be the only one using it. At least I've never saw >>>> any need to use something like that, nor have I met anyone that did. >>>> Because installing a window manager or desktop environment is as >>>> simple as `pkg install` and then pay attention to what the pkg post >>>> install messages are saying. As with any other program. >>> >>> I may as well be the only one who has used it. ^_^ Actually, I've read >>> about a small trickle of users here and there scattered across the web >>> who have `claimed` to have used it. There are also html/video tutorials >>> out there which mention it. I don't remember the exact links as I made >>> the initial mistake of rushing through installation the first time >>> without spending time with it and doing it correctly. >>> >>> Live and learn, I won't make this mistake again in future installs. :) >> >> It's even promoted as a good thing(tm), and slanted for adoption into the >> installer itself[0] >> >> 0: https://github.com/FreeBSDFoundation/proj-laptop/blob/main/monthly-updates/2025-06.md#kde-desktop-installer-option > > I don't see anything about the 'desktop-installer' package. > This update seems to be about adding a new section to `bsdinstall(8)` to > enable using that tool to install the desktop environment. > > But anyhow, I don't see why one would install anything WM/DE that way. > > The best DE is useless if one doesn't know > > a) how to install packages > > and > > b) read and understand the post install message > > And if anyone lacks those two skills, that person is not going to have a > great experience using FreeBSD. > > ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ > > Regards, > Mathias > My bad, the wording caused me to guess it was utilizing the same mechanism.. [0] is a completely different beast. 0: https://www.freebsd.org/status/report-2026-01-2026-03/#_desktop_script_for_bsdinstallhome | help
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