Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2020 20:17:11 +0700 From: Eugene Grosbein <eugen@grosbein.net> To: Slawa Olhovchenkov <slw@zxy.spb.ru> Cc: "svn-src-all@freebsd.org" <svn-src-all@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: svn commit: r356758 - in head/usr.sbin/bsdinstall: . scripts Message-ID: <798ef101-c9e5-093b-8a0c-7fd3cb9a07b1@grosbein.net> In-Reply-To: <20200117125851.GK38096@zxy.spb.ru> References: <CAPjTQNHa9Um%2B0S8zMD3eeop3YSdVti0o=DSv5%2BB=455wcrq3VA@mail.gmail.com> <ed0b16af-01c8-62fe-918a-3f1f9f9dcbd8@freebsd.org> <CANCZdfpOw54MQsW4aohLn3ufgEqK8beTe_EdjYktViFubPPyzg@mail.gmail.com> <aea3e071-61bd-399d-1d1f-cce4125b2480@grosbein.net> <CAPyFy2DEC=jhQdxOLjUGs9nr%2B2n733XJfWKjTKYbAY7eubRkRQ@mail.gmail.com> <fe489e0f-f05a-8d85-6ef7-0f3bd7b6f9f4@grosbein.net> <20200117000333.GI38096@zxy.spb.ru> <3b4b4bda-75a3-3019-bc02-ecd6acacd77f@grosbein.net> <20200117112151.GJ38096@zxy.spb.ru> <0f117603-d995-b32d-68fb-36cc319d9b79@grosbein.net> <20200117125851.GK38096@zxy.spb.ru>
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17.01.2020 19:58, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote: >>>> Considering /usr/ports, /usr/src and /usr/obj and amount of RAM >>>> needed to keep metadata in ZFS ARC >>> >>> /usr/ports, /usr/src and /usr/obj don't need be exist on low-RAM >>> install -- use poudriere and release build on dedicated build host and >>> applay binary update. >> >> Poudriere itself has its disadvantages. It's heavy and it's unable to produce minimal set of target packages >> suitable for "pkg install -U *.txz" command without build-only dependencies. > > Can you do it by /usr/ports way? No. And what you point? I can and I do, with my own scripts. >> I'd like to stick with poudriere but could not. Its supposed work-style does not worth it. >> >> Real Work (TM) sometimes presents the need to apply patches, so >> /usr/src and /usr/obj may become are unavoidable. > > I am do w/ dedicated builhost, produce custom build of > base.txz/kernel.txz/kernel.CUSTOM.txz and applay binary updates w/ BE. > What you point? The virtual guest is stand-alone including upgrades, does not depend on build host nor its existance. >> 1GB-RAM UFS system runs just fine with such trees being stand-alone and does not require extra build system and nor its overhead. > > clang very hard to compile in 1GB RAM. It was fine before clang-[78]. Buy nowadays, yes, I'm forced to use multiple knobs for src.conf WITHOUT_LLVM_TARGET_ALL= WITH_LLVM_TARGET_X86= WITHOUT_CLANG_FULL= And using WITH_META_MODE not cleaning obj directory. > Anyway, my 1GB ZFS system run just fine. During life-time of stable/10 and early stable/11 (and not so-early) ZFS required hard tuning for 1GB i386 system to be stable because it's KVM-hog.
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