Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 10:29:47 +0100 From: "Joao Barros" <joao.barros@gmail.com> To: "Robert Watson" <rwatson@freebsd.org> Cc: src-committers@freebsd.org, "Christian S.J. Peron" <csjp@freebsd.org>, cvs-all@freebsd.org, cvs-src@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/usr.sbin/syslogd syslogd.c Message-ID: <70e8236f0603310129r5fe4e3a4qd9cb329c768860cc@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20060331090421.I9972@fledge.watson.org> References: <200603302104.k2UL4qF7086165@repoman.freebsd.org> <20060331080654.GB776@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <20060331090421.I9972@fledge.watson.org>
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On 3/31/06, Robert Watson <rwatson@freebsd.org> wrote: > > On Fri, 31 Mar 2006, Peter Jeremy wrote: > > > On Thu, 2006-Mar-30 21:04:52 +0000, Christian S.J. Peron wrote: > >> This change allows syslogd to ignore ENOSPC space errors, so that whe= n the > >> filesystem is cleaned up, syslogd will automatically start logging ag= ain > >> without requiring the reset. This makes syslogd(8) a bit more reliabl= e. > > > > My sole concern with this is that this means that syslogd will keep try= ing > > to write to the full filesystem - and the kernel will log the attempts = to > > write to a full filesystem. Whilst there's rate limiting in the kernel= , > > this sort of feedback loop is undesirable. > > What I'd like to see is an argument to syslogd to specify a maximum full = level > for the target file system. Log data is valuable, but being able to writ= e to > /var/tmp/vi.recover is also important. syslogd -l 90% could specify that > sylogd should not write log records, perhaps other than an "out of space > record" to a log file on a file system with >=3D90% capacity. This preve= nts the > kernel from spewing about being out of space also. The accounting code d= oes > exactly this, for identical reasons. > > Robert N M Watson I was in bed last night and thought about this but also remembered something: imagine a very busy syslog machine, won't this "free space check" be a burden? I have a syslog machine at work that can fill up 30GB of disk in less than 2 hours and it's busy as it is :-) The solution as you correctly point out is it being optional. Take in consideration that checking by percentage can be tricky. On a very large disk that's inefficient, on a small one dangerous. Maybe a choice between percentage and real space is best. Does the kernel automatically starts complaining about out of space at 90%? If so that undermines my previous suggestions, but the questions remain ;-) -- Joao Barros
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